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deefour
#1 Mar 22 2012 03:50pm
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whats the all time best kind of sorc and what skills to use etc, anyone know?
just for pvm
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#2 Mar 22 2012 03:52pm
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Here are several good ones: The Complete guide to the MF Sorceress
There are also Crescent Moon/Vmagi builds out there, someone will come along and post one soon though. :)
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#3 Mar 22 2012 03:53pm
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imo

Tal set if your looking for something well rounded for mf'ing and such.

Quote (RaveTheGo @ Mar 22 2012 04:52pm)
Here are several good ones:  The Complete guide to the MF Sorceress
There are also Crescent Moon/Vmagi builds out there, someone will come along and post one soon though. :)


Exactly :thumbsup:



Best imo would have to be Grandma's Spec. Its a caster and a melee char at the same time with godly damage for both main attacks, and she's very durable to boot.Full time redemption higher then normal res with fire /cold /light sorb.
Whats also nice is you dont need to do any tetris action at your stash buffing.





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Heya Tommy :hug:


inb4 kewl build



Quote (Tommyvv @ Mar 22 2012 05:12pm)
hi m8!
intresting evil sorc your posting there!

i myself was thinking
vita-1es-infi-res-sorc-light//insight-tank-prayer merc!
just for stronk lvling/pvm killing/gem grab



Solid indeed.I'm a big fan of using Mang Song on a boltress/nova sorc w/10firewall 1FM
It has maximum "stile" and +5 -20 is stellar.



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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 22 2012 09:53pm)
imo

Tal set if your looking for something well rounded for mf'ing and such.



Exactly :thumbsup:



Best imo would have to be Grandma's Spec. Its a caster and a melee char at the same time with godly damage for both main attacks, and she's very durable to boot.Full time redemption higher then normal res with fire /cold /light sorb.
Whats also nice is you dont need to do any tetris action at your stash buffing.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/Master_Zappy/GrandmaHybrid-1.jpg



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hi m8!
intresting evil sorc your posting there!

i myself was thinking
vita-1es-infi-res-sorc-light//insight-tank-prayer merc!
just for stronk lvling/pvm killing/gem grab
deefour
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Quote (Tommyvv @ Mar 22 2012 05:12pm)
hi m8!
intresting evil sorc your posting there!

i myself was thinking
vita-1es-infi-res-sorc-light//insight-tank-prayer merc!
just for stronk lvling/pvm killing/gem grab


why inisght? you would be pwned by every light immune monster lol
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Quote (deefour @ Mar 22 2012 05:14pm)
why inisght? you would be pwned by every light immune monster lol


He's self wielding infinn which nets the best possible damage in pvm (another -55elr) and allows him to use ES for tanking because of insight, which is still a pretty darn good beat stick.

In order for light specs and top real damages in my trials

Infinn self wield
Crecent Moon/spirit
Mang Song
* ridiculous, your not going to find one orb*

depending on the res of the monster Mang staff is just behind Infinn.
I was hitting almost 1K damage per charged bolt, it was fantastic. (-135 elr total with high skills)

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Out of sheer curiosity what would your favorite pure light, or at least dominate light hybrid sorc be Zappy?
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Quote (deefour @ Mar 22 2012 10:14pm)
why inisght? you would be pwned by every light immune monster lol


ofc not!

you have infi on sorc,like i posted above, nn fhr from spirit!
it also gives you a instant -55resist vs the non imunes, allow to kill faster, if kill monsters before 1-2second delayed conviction starts work.

20k and -55infi -25griffon vs monster 40light res
40res-55-25=-40resist before conviction
20k*1.4= 28k

if infi on merc,
40-25=15monster resist
28k effective damage needed/.85 = 33k

20k+infi on sorc > 33k+infi on merc
when it comes to damage only
ofc, everlasting mana/mass replenish double prayer bonus is added ontop

when conviction is active
40-55-25-85=-100resist capped (-125)
vs
40-25-85=-70
you still need over 23.5k+infi merc to beat 20k+insight merc
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#9 Mar 22 2012 04:29pm
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Quote (Onslaughtx @ Mar 22 2012 05:24pm)
Out of sheer curiosity what would your favorite pure light, or at least dominate light hybrid sorc be Zappy?


200 fcr as the "pure" caster centric light.It's a great rusher too.
My fav mfer sorc is tals fireball/nova with infinn merc.
Pdr 63 blizz es tankers for fun.


Quote (Master_Zappy @ Jun 19 2010 08:00pm)
My old 200 fcr sorc was one of my favorite caster sorcs of all time. She was an amazing rusher, baal tele'r and fabulous in my smaller games..
The trick is getting enough damage so you can force monsters into fhr recovery. This allowed her to play super aggressively and just telestomp right into packs. She melted bosses with charged bolt. All in all , an excellent char. Everyone should try out a 200 at least once in their d2 careers.

Mine got up to lvl 90 on hc :)

Geared;
Griff /faceted
vmagi faceted.
35 Spirit
Hoto
1 soj
1 fcr ring
20 fcr +1 sorc rare ammy with mediocre mods  (never did get around to finding a +2 godly one. )
Arach belt
magefists
Silkweaves/aldurs
Phnx monarch + cta on switch

infinn Might merc, Treach+andy's on a CA.
Inventory full of random mostly plain light skillers, torch and anni along with as many life sc I could cram on her. (a few 20's, a few 17/18/19's , some with res)

20 charged bolt
20 nova
20 light mastery
20 lightning
10 Firewall
1 fire mastery
1 frozen armor
1 warmth
static (obviously)
rest in chain light.

With the plus gear on, you got a 2X something firewall, which was great for frying souls and not being 100% reliant on the merc. What I really liked about this was the long timer.

typical run down while waiting for baal to go in his portal so I could pwn him.

bo while standing there, then put Battlecry on my right click with the cta switch.
upon entering WOldstone chamber
tele stomp Baal and lay down a firewall , hit "w" and cast battlecry and hit "w" again. Static like mad until he's at 50% life. At this point start spamming Charged bolt. A few seconds later, collect your loot and move on.

Avgeraged 3 and half min baal runs. She was FAST!

Nova pwned the fodder monsters , and charged bolt squished bosses.
Iirc she had 2200 life and 2400 mana with max res in hell. Nova was around roughly 2800 and charged bolt was ~700 per bolt.

After you have a 7fpa casting sorc, everything else seems so slow.





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if kill monsters before 1-2second delayed conviction starts work.


Thats a good point and easy to overlook. :thumbsup:



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#10 Mar 22 2012 04:42pm
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Why'd you opt to use Phoenix on switch as opposed to a random Spirit Monarch? You don't have enough +skills in the build to max BC/BO on the CTA, and FWall is a secondary concern so the -28% fire res isn't going to make a tremendous difference. I personally never struggled with fire/light damage either (in PvM, obv) so the max res seems trivial to me. Perhaps it would allow me to play more aggressively though.

I don't see ES mentioned in there, why emphasize mana? I run a similar build but only touch about ~2200 health and ~1,100 mana or so (no inventory outside Anni/Storch/Gheeds/Tome of TP - so no 20/17 or anything).

This post was edited by Onslaughtx on Mar 22 2012 04:46pm
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