he isnt listening to you so i say hes neutral on the subject

i play mostly pvp so i can roll through just about any attack, no need for poise even though i stack it just in case. anyways, roll bs is the most powerful pvp technique and if you can roll bs the guy you're fighting while mid rolling or fat rolling you might as well just spam r1 since he sucks major ass

Dwgr is useless after the dlc patch.

Don't you want more invincibility frames and faster recovery time?

nah man, it was reduced from 50% equipment to flipy to 25% i believe.

You still get more frames for invincibility and frames for recovery time with it.

This post was edited by WolfOfHonor on Nov 6 2013 12:16pm

In my exerience, the fast roll was just as good. The DGWR had a little more than fast, but it took up an extra ring slot, so meh.

whats wrong with black armor?

Its meh, but too heavy for my likings.

but my fun times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsFSLL94VBI

that ring carim drops is gg for pve