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Jun 22 2017 10:32am
Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jun 22 2017 05:15am)
Sound seems little compromised vs ModMic and the connection on your headphones is better in ModMic imo. Other than that it looks really great for the price it sells for.


Quote (Trugbug @ Jun 22 2017 11:23am)
So other than it being an inferior product it looks great for selling for an inferior price???

😆😆😂


where are you guys getting these details?
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Jun 22 2017 12:23pm
Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jun 22 2017 03:15am)
Sound seems little compromised vs ModMic and the connection on your headphones is better in ModMic imo. Other than that it looks really great for the price it sells for.


I heard a couple comparisons, thout it sounded a little better.


Either way, half price for a comparavlr product is gg
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Jun 22 2017 08:29pm
wrong thread

This post was edited by DCSS on Jun 22 2017 08:34pm
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Jun 23 2017 12:16am
whiuch asshole told me
to put windows on 100% and
turn dac down

my dac is now 100%
windows is 60%
'and mother of god
it sounds so much better
f u lee
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Quote (yupitsmeh @ 22 Jun 2017 18:32)
where are you guys getting these details?


Some one made direct comparison on youtube for the mic quality and recorded with both of them and I personally like magnet for mic arm instead of the velcro.
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Jun 23 2017 02:29am
Quote (urbanshaft @ 22 Jun 2017 23:16)
whiuch asshole told me
to put windows on 100% and
turn dac down

my dac is now 100%
windows is 60%
'and mother of god
it sounds so much better
f u lee


:rofl:
did u just ask
and answer
ur own question
my face
when
i get bald

This post was edited by Secksii on Jun 23 2017 02:30am
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Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jun 23 2017 02:43am)
Some one made direct comparison on youtube for the mic quality and recorded with both of them and I personally like magnet for mic arm instead of the velcro.


I couldnt use that as a basis to say which is better

Quote (urbanshaft @ Jun 23 2017 01:16am)
whiuch asshole told me
to put windows on 100% and
turn dac down

my dac is now 100%
windows is 60%
'and mother of god
it sounds so much better
f u lee


which dac are you using

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Jun 23 2017 06:56am
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Quote (Rikuo @ Jun 21 2017 02:02am)
loooool


that sucks :(

That isnt my pic, just randomly saw it lol


No long term damage. Just a solid freak out.
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Quote (urbanshaft @ Jun 22 2017 11:16pm)
whiuch asshole told me
to put windows on 100% and
turn dac down

my dac is now 100%
windows is 60%
'and mother of god
it sounds so much better
f u lee


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Reducing volume in software is basically equivalent to reducing the bit depth. In digital audio, the signal is split up into distinct samples (taken thousands of times per second), and bit depth is the number of bits that are used to describe each sample. Attenuating a signal is done by multiplying each sample by a number less than one, with the result being that you're no longer using the full resolution to describe the audio, resulting in reduced dynamic range and signal-to-noise ratio. Specifically, every 6 dB of attenuation is equivalent to reducing the bit depth by one. If you started with, say, 16-bit audio (standard for audio CDs) and reduced the volume by 12 dB, you'd effectively be listening to 14-bit audio instead. Turn the volume down too much and quality will start to suffer noticeably.

Another issue is that these calculations will often result in rounding errors, due to the original value of the sample not being a multiple of the factor by which you're dividing the samples. This further degrades the audio quality by introducing what's basically quantisation noise. Again, this mostly happens at lower volume levels. Different programs might use slightly different algorithms for attenuating the signal and resolving those rounding errors, which means there might be some difference in the resulting audible signal between, say, an audio player and the OS, but that doesn't change the fact that in all cases you're still reducing bit depth and essentially wasting a portion of the bandwidth on transmitting zeroes instead of useful information.

The result of reducing the volume in hardware depends on how the volume control is implemented. If it's digital, then the effect is much the same as reducing the volume in software, so there's probably little to no difference in which one you use, in terms of audio quality.

Ideally, you should output audio from your computer at full volume, so as to get the highest resolution (bit depth) possible, and then have an analogue volume control as one of the last things in front of the speakers. Assuming all the devices in your signal path are of more or less comparable quality (i.e. you're not pairing a cheap low-end amplifier with a high-end digital source and DAC), that should give the best audio quality.


I mean, Do whatever you want.


/e
http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf
Good read with graphs & measurements.

This post was edited by Rikuo on Jun 23 2017 11:09am
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Quote (Rikuo @ Jun 23 2017 12:04pm)
I mean, Do whatever you want.


Don't need to worry about that anymore with my x7

Fuck volume is on 2 for speakers and 6 for headphones
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