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Jul 4 2011 11:57am
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takes like 5 seconds to switch any voice chat to speex, it's silly not to have it as speexs in the first place.. medium-high quality speex = phone quality


Speex is the worst quality codec. Much much worse than GSM.

Edit: Another reason it's standard and used by nearly every Ventrilo is it's much lower on bandwidth consumption. Better sound, less bandwidth, better overall.



This post was edited by Markro on Jul 4 2011 12:09pm
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Jul 4 2011 07:38pm
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I know John jp2050, figured out a way to do this, although I'm not sure how he did it. Maybe you could send him a PM and ask nicely :p


So he was not able to figure it out, I guess I'm screwed :cry:
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Jul 4 2011 08:17pm
I've used Vent for mac for a while now with no issues, no matter what vent server I'm in :huh:


Although I will say that Wine is awesome, it looks complex but it's really not that bad at all so if that's your only option I'd say it is worth a try
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Jul 5 2011 12:35am
Quote (Markro @ Jul 4 2011 10:57am)
Speex is the worst quality codec. Much much worse than GSM.

Edit: Another reason it's standard and used by nearly every Ventrilo is it's much lower on bandwidth consumption. Better sound, less bandwidth, better overall.


I hope you realize how none of the kids headphones / speakers play quality near the studio quality


btw if vent wasn't years behind in development compared to other voice servers like the one I run you'd be seeing more of this:


Quality: (best quality comes first)

Speex25.9 > Speex19.5 > Speex16.3 > Speex12.3 > GSM16.4 = GSM14.8 > Speex9.3 > Speex7.2 > WinCELP5.2 > Speex5.2 > CELP6.3 = CELP5.1 > Speex3.4

& don't forget
speex being so compatible >

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Jul 5 2011 12:49am
Quote (GRATS @ Jul 5 2011 01:35am)
I hope you realize how none of the kids headphones / speakers play quality near the studio quality


btw if vent wasn't years behind in development compared to other voice servers like the one I run you'd be seeing more of this:


Quality: (best quality comes first)

Speex25.9 > Speex19.5 > Speex16.3 > Speex12.3 > GSM16.4 = GSM14.8 > Speex9.3 > Speex7.2 > WinCELP5.2 > Speex5.2 > CELP6.3 = CELP5.1 > Speex3.4

& don't forget
speex being so compatible >


Sorry, Speex < GSM. Fact. Speex is an absolute bandwidth drain and it's horrible for oversea's users. Furthermore, it sounds like people are talking through tin cans, hence why it's very rarely used. I used to work for Darkstar Communications as the webmaster and tech support rep and GSM is by far hand over fist better for sound quality vs bandwidth consumption. While I would normally invite a debate on a subject I share an interest in, there is no need to further clutter this thread with off-topic banter. I ask that you do not post here unless you are addressing the subject matter of the inquiry. Thank you :)

It is unfortunate that Mac doesn't support GSM, although as far as I know it's due to their refusal to pay licensing fee's. This isn't the case with Speex as it's free.

@NNJG: I did some more searching and spoke to a friend who still works with DSC and from what I found one of the only ways to use GSM on Mac is emulation, sorry :(

This post was edited by Markro on Jul 5 2011 01:03am
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