what he said

soo apart from its uniqueness wtf makes this any good?

nigma with res and fhr, dr can be achieved from other gear depending on what char its used on, only drawback is the -5% life, but if ur a serious player that wont have a major affect on you.....

you can easily hit fhr breakpoints without that

and the res are a joke cept the cold (easily capped with sum 20/5 or 20/11)

not too mention no dmg red and no life

not trying to flame but wtf

This post was edited by Portmouth on Mar 19 2011 09:57am

on most chars that 5% only adds 100 life or so.

and if u think about it 20fhr-80life replaced in charms b4 bo after bo it wuld = like 140life?

enigma of duress is better for those who can afford it



you obv dont kno much. those extra 15res culd be the difference of having to 20/15 sumthin or jah it (jah>20/15 in all cases)

No damage reduce and 5% vit means that enigma fails

I read your post but to Affirm something of yours, who needs to use small charms to to get fhr. I thought we just used a skill fhr of 12 fhr. And actually for those who can afford this can also afford the pro gear to hit those Bps without the ones on enigma NOR anything with the inventory except like 10-12 fhr short (which is where the grand charm comes into play)

5% life balances out with your life from the charms (considering poor scrubs use those charms)
and the damage reduce on MOST chars that arent barbs can't be hit easily without sacrificing something just as important. Figure most casters use cornets etc with No Dr. Melee uses coa with 15% DR and dungos of 15=30%. Original Enigma would save a Ber rune from the Coa to max out DR. Giving room to a 20/15 anyday or whatever else they wanted. Gloves nor boots give DR, and spirit/hoz etc don't give it, and I dont know a melee pally or other that uses stormshield. And Before you counter with "well you can ber your shield" thats just another socket that original enigma can replace..

In otherwords your explanation only is valid for One build. Rather than the multiple multiple builds who use enigma. You should buy this for its' uniqueness and thats about it. Is it worth the price of it? Well if you had 200k fg+ maybe.

This post was edited by Westville on Mar 19 2011 02:51pm

read above post as to why it doesnt

bin

No damage reduce and 5% vit means that enigma fails

I read your post but to Affirm something of yours, who needs to use small charms to to get fhr. I thought we just used a skill fhr of 12 fhr. And actually for those who can afford this can also afford the pro gear to hit those Bps without the ones on enigma NOR anything with the inventory except like 10-12 fhr short (which is where the grand charm comes into play)

5% life balances out with your life from the charms (considering poor scrubs use those charms)
and the damage reduce on MOST chars that arent barbs can't be hit easily without sacrificing something just as important. Figure most casters use cornets etc with No Dr. Melee uses coa with 15% DR and dungos of 15=30%. Original Enigma would save a Ber rune from the Coa to max out DR. Giving room to a 20/15 anyday or whatever else they wanted. Gloves nor boots give DR, and spirit/hoz etc don't give it, and I dont know a melee pally or other that uses stormshield. And Before you counter with "well you can ber your shield" thats just another socket that original enigma can replace..

In otherwords your explanation only is valid for One build. Rather than the multiple multiple builds who use enigma. You should buy this for its' uniqueness and thats about it. Is it worth the price of it? Well if you had 200k fg+ maybe.

seems as if you are talkin about melee chars here.

in real pvp where real chars are made res and fhr>the 8dr and 5% life but if u wanna do it the way u said

12fhr=45life for gc so this is roughly 80life for most chars

and resists are more important then dr for these simple facts zon/barb/druid (and if u rlly wanna count mind blast for sin) are only chars that actually are viable chars with phys dmg (i consider all smiters fairly ez unless perhaps a good tele smiter)

now the chars that use elemental dmg sin/sorc/druid/foher/psn necs

in most of those cases res wuld need to be stacked.

simple solution here though keep norm nigma in stash and wear this and switch when needed