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I made some runs with my suggested setup in p8 game and Souls are really dangerous. Vipers, dolls, wave 5 are easy. However i tried to kill Baal w/o infi merc once, but it was horribly slow. Chaos Sanctuary with infy merc in p8 game is no problem. Only merc gets sometimes killed by Diablo. Travincal is doable but dangerous. The other areas are easy.
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Quote (Oggy_xP @ Dec 23 2010 11:26pm)
I made some runs with my suggested setup in p8 game and Souls are really dangerous. Vipers, dolls, wave 5 are easy. However i tried to kill Baal w/o infi merc once, but it was horribly slow. Chaos Sanctuary with infy merc in p8 game is no problem. Only merc gets sometimes killed by Diablo. Travincal is doable but dangerous. The other areas are easy.


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Dec 23 2010 03:37pm
Apart from missing MF, why not try this:

Griffon's
Rare/Crafted FCR Amu
Viper
Rare/Crafted FCR Ring x2
HotO
Stormshield
TGod's
Bloodfist
Shadow Dancers
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HotO, Viper, SS + Res from Amu/Rings/Inventory --> max. Res
TGod's = higher LR + Abs
Dancers + Bloodfist = 60 FHR with still 3 open sockets in Viper, SS and Griffon's (reaching 86 with 3x 7 FHR jewels + 1 SC)
Also, you lose just 1 Skill (Arach) vs. most other builds that were suggested, so DMG = enough
Max Block reached ofc and stats from Amu + Rings (+TGods's STR and Dancer's DEX) will help a lot to save points for VIT.
117 FCR reached

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Quote (aneas @ Dec 24 2010 12:37am)
Apart from missing MF, why not try this:

Griffon's
Rare/Crafted FCR Amu
Viper
Rare/Crafted FCR Ring x2
HotO
Stormshield
TGod's
Bloodfist
Shadow Dancers
---
HotO, Viper, SS +  Res from Amu/Rings/Inventory --> max. Res
TGod's = higher LR + Abs
Dancers + Bloodfist = 60 FHR with still 3 open sockets in Viper, SS and Griffon's (reaching 86 with 3x 7 FHR jewels + 1 SC)
Also, you lose just 1 Skill (Arach) vs. most other builds that were suggested, so DMG = enough
Max Block reached ofc and stats from Amu + Rings (+TGods's STR and Dancer's DEX) will help a lot to save points for VIT.
117 FCR reached


Won't the massive Dex/Str requirements still give me a result of 1,5-1,6k HP in the end?
This is still an armor choice of no Str addition.
I'm thinking more and more of Gerke's and Sdancers. Will find a way to include them with HotO/Griffon/CoH.
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I'm sorry I think I dont understand clearly what you're asking in this post.

You pointed out different things to pay attention for :
- surviviability (its HC)
- damages
- budget (its pvm)
- %mf

Its probabably easy to find the best build for your needs if you clearly choose 1 thing to max, then, under this condition, another thing to max, then etc...

But it's difficult to give an answer when all the 4 things seem to have importance.

ex 1 : a low surviviability-low budget-decent mf/killing speed would satisfy your needs ?
you'd pay 0-5fg for the entire build, so she could die, not a big loss, and still be able to farm 30-50fg items before dying (you can make fg in nightmare runs...).

ex 2 : a 99%top-efficient surviviability, along with nice killing speed/mf + decent budget (maybe < 200fg). You would enjoy this some times... then die by mistake or bad luck, and get angry to have not chosen 100% surviviability...

so ?

This post was edited by feanur on Dec 23 2010 06:12pm
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Quote (feanur @ Dec 24 2010 03:11am)
I'm sorry I think I dont understand clearly what you're asking in this post.

You pointed out different things to pay attention for :
- surviviability (its HC)
- damages
- budget (its pvm)
- %mf

Its probabably easy to find the best build for your needs if you clearly choose 1 thing to max, then, under this condition, another thing to max, then etc...

But it's difficult to give an answer when all the 4 things seem to have importance.

ex 1 : a low surviviability-low budget-decent mf/killing speed would satisfy your needs ?
you'd pay 0-5fg for the entire build, so she could die, not a big loss, and still be able to farm 30-50fg items before dying (you can make fg in nightmare runs...).

ex 2 : a 99%top-efficient surviviability, along with nice killing speed/mf + decent budget (maybe < 200fg). You would enjoy this some times... then die by mistake or bad luck, and get angry to have not chosen 100% surviviability...

so ?


You're forgetting %DR and MB. Those are 6 factors now combined.
It's not as easy as you may think, there were nearly 10 setups already suggested.

Also, there are many ways to go about each goal.
Exemplary:
MB via Storm --> Str req comes up.
MB via Moser's --> %DR issue comes up.
MB via Whitstan --> %Resist issues come up.

This post was edited by Synonym on Dec 23 2010 06:15pm
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Quote (Synonym @ Dec 24 2010 01:13am)
You're forgetting %DR and MB. Those are 6 factors now combined.
It's not as easy as you may think, there were nearly 10 setups already suggested.

Also, there are many ways to go about each goal.
Exemplary:
MB via Storm --> Str req comes up.
MB via Moser's --> %DR issue comes up.
MB via Whitstan --> %Resist issues come up.


%dr , MB, %res etc are all part of what I call "surviviability".
You still dont say exactly what importance have budget/killing speed/mf in your eyes.

If it's only a "surviviability" issue, I would simply not use Griffon, for exemple, but something like 3os 25pdr tiara with 3xMal or 3xSol ... or CoA.

This post was edited by feanur on Dec 23 2010 07:08pm
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