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Quote (Stigander @ Dec 22 2010 08:57pm)
did you use 9 light skillers to get this damage with your gear? full inventory and pvm doesn't mix well..

also.. I think a 2/20/2 circlet and 2 sojs.. would be better.. etc


4 Light skillers. Along with the rest of my inventory, I've left 2 columns empty for looting.
If I would want to aim for more damage, I would definitely get Griffon's Eye over any circlet.

Quote (aneas @ Dec 22 2010 08:08pm)
I'm proud to be asked about this^^

Now, here is why I don't think you will regard my posts as helpful:

It's all about the %DR part... I have played a number of Light Sorcs in SC and especially oin HC lately. And with increasing number of games played in HC, as well as increasing knowledge and skill + a certain experience and routine, I must say I do not think that a high amount of %DR is in any way necessary.

Therefore I'd alway prefer a Base (or low)-STR setup including a Dual RBF'ed (upgraded) Mosar's...

Max Res = almost (reaching 70 of 75 @ Res) done with only Anni/Torch/Anya + clean Viper, clean Mosar's, HotO... rest should be up to SCs, since we don't need additional Mana (Base x BO = enough).
Max Block = easy to achieve with low Dex (especially if some of your other equip has STR, so you can make use of upgraded Mosar's)
Fast Block = same breakpoint as SS anyway
FCR = 25 Griffon's, 30 Viper, 40 HotO = 95, so we need another 22+ from gear to reach it. Possible via Amu, Belt and Rings.
High DMG = Viper: 1 Skill + perf RBF > 2 Skills in PvM; 2x RBF from Mosar's > SS, Griffon's also adds a lot of -ELR.
High Life: No need to stat STR usually = saved points for VIT = Life. Also less Dex needed for MB = more points saved for VIT = more Life. No need for Aldur's = space to use WWs = 15 Dex saved = 30 BO'able Life + 25 BO'able Life compared to Aldur's.
FHR: Using usual setups, we don't have any FHR I guess, which might be a problem. I'd say either lose DMG from RBFs and socket Dex/FHR/adds jewels, or use a crafted Belt and Bloods to reach certain bps.

I'll edit some setups of mine and later post them...

EDIT:

Before I forget... ImO your build(s) all lack cnbf... many people consider it useless on Sorcs, but ImO this is a must in PvP and HC PvM.


Will take it into consideration.
Would be great if you wrote the setup neatly along the guide, for better eye view (Your arguments are actually very good).
Why would you consider CBF as consequential in HC?

This post was edited by Synonym on Dec 22 2010 12:13pm
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i would personally hel or eld my SS, since it already has tri-res.
then get more res from other sources. this way you can stat either less str for req or less dex for MB breakpoint.

My light sorcy has a more light dmg focused build (typical griff/eschucha etc build), pure vita. max res, low DR, 250ish MF, 118 fcr.
my main issues ofc is when i accidently tele right into the middle of a mob, i get smacked down pretty hard, sometimes killed.
ima try max block setup, but i foresee a FHR problem, if the mob hits too fast... so may have to figure out a way to balance out a good amount of FHR... along with trying to hit max DR.

watcha think?

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my sorc use..

2/20/2
viper
hoto
2 sojs
arach
trang gloves
stormshield
maras
aldurs I think..
don't remember what I socket stuff with.. but I got 75 all res after anya quest.
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Quote (Batou079 @ Dec 22 2010 09:13pm)
i would personally hel or eld my SS, since it already has tri-res.
then get more res from other sources.  this way you can stat either less str for req or less dex for MB breakpoint.

My light sorcy has a more light dmg focused build (typical griff/eschucha etc build), pure vita. max res, low DR, 250ish MF, 118 fcr.
my main issues ofc is when i accidently tele right into the middle of a mob, i get smacked down pretty hard, sometimes killed.
ima try max block setup, but i foresee a FHR problem, if the mob hits too fast... so may have to figure out a way to balance out a good amount of FHR... along with trying to hit max DR.

watcha think?


This scenario cannot be afforded, therefore this is an only-MB discussion. Thank you anyway.

Quote (Stigander @ Dec 22 2010 09:20pm)
my sorc use..

2/20/2
viper
hoto
2 sojs
arach
trang gloves
stormshield
maras
aldurs I think..
don't remember what I socket stuff with.. but I got 75 all res after anya quest.


I've discovered that without CoH or Enigma, any armor combined with SS will result in massive investments, Strength-wise, and Dexterity-wise (MB, 226 required @Level 94).

I have tried a Vipermagi setup, only to have 1,500 HP after BO in the end. It was not amusing.
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Dec 22 2010 12:29pm
same here.. I got 1600 life or something.. it is lower than I like..
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Quote (Synonym @ Dec 22 2010 10:24am)
This scenario cannot be afforded, therefore this is an only-MB discussion. Thank you anyway.


aha, somehow i didnt see this marked HC. DESPITE that scenario, the rest of my suggestions still apply for overall HC gameplay... just curious whatcha think about eld for less dex usage, or hell for less str usage for req.
leaving more stat for more vita, and can prolly make up the res loss elsewhere easily enough.
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Quote (Batou079 @ Dec 22 2010 09:31pm)
aha, somehow i didnt see this marked HC.  DESPITE that scenario, the rest of my suggestions still apply for overall HC gameplay... just curious whatcha think about eld for less dex usage, or hell for less str usage for req.
leaving more stat for more vita, and can prolly make up the res loss elsewhere easily enough.


As for MB strictly, Eld is the best option. However, with whatever resistance factors I have in my setup, I am compelled to Um the stormshield.

However, I believe I can test aneas' suggestion setup:

Moser's Blessed Circle (-10%/+X%)
Vipermagi 30 (-5%/+X%)
HotO 40
Griffon's Eye
WW
Soj + FCR ring
Arachnid's Mesh
Bloodfist
Mara's Kaleidoscope

My only concern now remaining is %MF. I wish to reach 150-200%. How is that attainable, if at all?
Apart from using Gheed's Fortune, what else can variate?

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Quote (Synonym @ Dec 22 2010 07:52pm)
As for MB strictly, Eld is the best option. However, with whatever resistance factors I have in my setup, I am compelled to Um the stormshield.

However, I believe I can test aneas' suggestion setup:

Moser's Blessed Circle (-10%/+X%)
Vipermagi 30 (-5%/+X%)
HotO 40
Griffon's Eye
WW
Soj + FCR ring
Arachnid's Mesh
Bloodfist
Mara's Kaleidoscope

My only concern now remaining is %MF. I wish to reach at least 200%. How is that attainable, if at all?
Apart from using Gheed's Fortune, what else can variate?


this.. but maybe 105 fcr instead and .. whitstands instead of that shield.. also,, fcr gloves and dungos intead if you want some dr.. don't remember str req on dungo.. but I fear it is 100 something.. if so then maybe.. string of ears instead
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Quote (Stigander @ Dec 22 2010 09:59pm)
this.. but maybe 105 fcr instead and .. whitstands instead of that shield.. also,, fcr gloves and dungos intead if you want some dr.. don't remember str req on dungo.. but I fear it is 100 something.. if so then maybe.. string of ears instead


This is a Lightning sorceress. 117% is a must.
Moser's offers slightly less CtB, has inherent resistances and 2os. It is preferred over Whitstan's Guard, IMO.
Going for Magefist/SoE will lose me 30% FHR, 40 Boable life, 1 to all skills, 5% mana increment. I don't believe this will suit me well.

However, I could use Tal Rasha's belt, which offers 15% MF and 20 dexterity which can help with the Block dexterity requirement.
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you have es-infi on sorc non block kaboom
you have block-tank

vita-spirit is a bad balanced mix between!
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