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Important: It must be noted that jsp does NOT support gambling or betting with fg. If you get welched/bm'd there is nothing we can do about it. BET SAFE! Use an unofficial sports Med!

Table Of Contents:
  • Commonly Used Phrases/Terms
  • Safe Betting Techniques
  • Unofficial Bettors List
Commonly Used Phrases/Terms

Unofficial Bettors List - A compilation of Mediator, Trusted, Active, Unknown Bettors and also Welchers. Look to these Lists as guidelines when making bets. Nominations for these lists are done by members of the community. (see below for more info)

Confirm - Self-explanatory. Verbiage used to confirm a bet once it is proposed. BOTH sides of a bet must confirm it for it to be valid. Common Abbreviations: cd, c/d.

Auto-Confirm - Bettor A posts that he/she is betting on Team 1, Bettor B posts that he/she will bet xxx fg on Team 2 and that he auto-confirms the bet. This means that Bettor B automatically confirms the bet for the specified amount if Bettor A confirms it. Note: Bettor A decides to bet a different amount of fg, Bettor B will have to post back to confirm the new amount for it to be valid. Common Abbreviations: AC, A/C'd. AC for such and such user.

Retract - Retracting a bet means that you are withdrawing your offer. Although some bettors find it annoying (and sometimes bad mannered) if someone retracts a bet after it's confirmed, but a bet can be retracted up until game time (unless otherwise specified by the bettors).

Spread - Pretty simple, really. Let's say the official spread on a game is Cleveland +5 vs. Dallas; if I were to bet on Cleveland, I would add five points to Cleveland's final score and if that is greater than Dallas' score, I would win the bet. If I were to bet on Dallas, the spread would be Dallas -5; thus, I would subtract five points from Dallas' final score and if it is greater than Cleveland's score, I would win the bet. A lot of times, you will see spreads with .5 points, this is to eliminate the possibility of a tie.

Moneyline and how to determine Odds - This is used by sportsbooks to determine odds on a "straight up" (no spread) bet. They will be posted as Team A -###, or Team B +###. Example- Detroit -110 vs Tampa Bay +120. In this case, Detroit is favored to win the game. If I were to bet on Detroit, I would have to bet 110 to win 100, thus -110; if I were to bet on Tampa Bay, I would bet 100 to win 120, thus +120. A simplified way to use Moneylines is for odds. In the example of Detroit -110/Tampa +120, if I were to bet on Detroit, I would offer 1.1:1 odds on my bets (X*1.1:X); Tampa, I would get 1:1.2 odds (X:X*1.2).

Sending Upfront - This means that in order to confirm your bet, you would send your fg upfront to the person with whom you are betting with. My advice: you should only do this with Trusted bettors, or some Active bettors that have established themselves as good bettors. Mostly, this is asked of bettors that have just started in the community by more established members to protect from welching. Once again, use your own discretion when being asked to send upfront. One alternative to sending upfront is using an unofficial mediator for your bet, I would recommend this over sending upfront to everybody. Common Abbreviations: u/f, uf. (send u/f to confirm)

Parlay - In a parlay bet, you bet one amount on a certain number of picks (usually 3-8) for a certain day. If you correctly pick all of the chosen games, you receive odds depending on how many games you choose. Example, a three-game parlay might have 3:1 odds, so if you correctly pick three out of three games, you would win 3x the amount you bet. The more games you choose, the higher the odds, since the probability of picking the correct winner of five, six, seven, eight or more games is increasingly difficult. Example: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=21705284&f=201&st=0

Pick Challenge - A flat amount or a bet per game on all of the games for a certain day (or week); picks are usually done in a serpentine order (ABBAABBAAB...). Example: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=49074099&f=204

Safe Betting Techniques
  • d2jsp.org does NOT support Sports Betting of any kind. So, if you are welched, there's nothing the site will do for you. You are betting at your own risk.
  • There is a reason the Unofficial Bettors Lists are labeled as "Unofficial," they are run by members of the betting community and people are nominated by their peers. We all make mistakes on who we deem trustworthy, but for the most part, the lists are an accurate display of the community.
  • Do not bet with a past welcher. If you do feel the need to bet with a welcher/paid back welcher USE A MED.
  • Don't send upfront to everyone and their mother. Check the Unofficial List. Be Smart about who you bet with.
  • Use an unofficial mediator for bets that you don't feel comfortable with, that's what they're there for. If someone wants you to send upfront and you don't feel comfortable with it, suggest to use a med instead, everybody wins.
  • Don't overbet. Keep a good tab on the bets you have (Track the topics and label them) and how much fg you have left for other bets. If you do overbet and can't pay a bet you will be listed as a welcher.
  • Some people post in-game bets, or bets after the game has already started. These bets cannot be retracted and do NOT edit your posts on in-game bets, to avoid any confusion and future blacklisting, etc. If you do an in game bet make sure both sides understand the terms of the bet to avoid confusion/welcher accusations.
  • Be smart. Ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask someone to use a med for your bet.
Unofficial Bettor List:

Summary - This feature of the sports forums is ran completely by regulars of the community. There are five different groups of people listed.
  • Mediators - Highest on the list you will never have a problem with these users 99% of the time. They will mediate your bets with you.
  • Trusted - Highest on the list you will never have a problem with these users 99% of the time. Trusted are just as high as Mediator they prefer not to Mediate.
  • Active - Feel safe betting with these users. They have done many bets with no problem. If unsure always use a Mediator.
  • Unknown - Yet to prove themselves as trustworthy. Be safe use a med.
  • Welcher Paid-Back - These users have welched a bet and want to be a member of the community it is always a good idea to use a Med when betting with them. "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me."
  • Welcher - These users are the scum of the community. Do not bet with them unless a mediator is being used.
  • Blacklist - The worst beings possible. Do not bet with or associate with these lowlifes.


NFL & College, Basketball, Baseball current list: http://forums.d2jsp.org/img.php?i=639511&a=2
Link to Bettor Status: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=44708433&f=201

Please feel free to PM me or ask any of the other regulars if you have any questions. We always welcome new members to this community.

Big thank you to those volunteering their time to run the Unofficial Bettors Status, and also those of you that contribute to the Sports Betting community.

Hopefully with this, new bettors and those less experienced can learn how to bet safely and minimize the risk of welchers.



Special Thanks to Eniac. 95% of this was taken from his version with a couple small adds.
I used red cuz ginger. :ph34r:

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Quote (Odds @ Oct 20 2010 11:04pm)
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Bump +1 Etc.

Nice tho seriously.

Alot easier to post a link instead of explaining to those new ones.
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thanks pilot/eniac

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Updated the link in my sig, thanks :)
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First page of an epic thread.
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Like I said, just a couple adds. Rewording etc.
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