on paper it looks worse. but i tried this build long ago (beginning-middle of last ladder) and it worked perfectly vs all. I had a 102 setup vs some necros/team duels



its not a drastic drop in whirl dmg from a standard hybrid but you gain mb.
and good whirls makes it work fine

This post was edited by Soccergoal10 on Jul 11 2010 01:45pm

Probably because your whirls suck.

Got to agree with this.

Never did the math on venom my self and ya you do have a point here.

Thought if I remember right my ghostsins venom damage was closer to 2k than 1.2k.

ghost sin should have around 1.5k venom

or because your necs suck
no nec will get caught by a 65 fcr sin with shit dmg whirls

But maxing Venom will make catching necro much better!

With prebuff venom?

I'm pretty sure it was at least 1.8k or so.



Maybe not catching, but will make the damage better before you go through bone armor. Sometimes the necro flees before you are able to go through bone armor.



My point exactly.

This post was edited by ambid on Jul 11 2010 01:50pm

this.

although I agree with this thread kinda. having good physical damage is good. having no physical damage on whirl is bad.
20 venom is nice to have either way. going 9x gc is still viable not just cause it boosts venom alone but a number of sd skills. (even though gc/320 split is still what I prefer on ghosts vs all builds)

builds that use gt with just 20venom + max gcs are kinda bad. but nothing wrong with maxing venom on a build using good claws. no reason not to on a ghost anyways. <.<



hybrids are the worst of standard sin variants to go up vs necros anyways. ghosts or pure trappers both fare better in this matchup imo. either a combination of heavy hitting claws + venom + max mb, or traps + fireblast use + max mindblast. hybrids have whirl damage and traps but not quite as strong at either and no maxed mb support for chasing. so they are naturally worst vs necros, maxing mindblast on a hybrid does give chasing power but then the other skills aren't as strong as a pure build.

what does ww dmg have to do with getting caught?

a 102 fcr sin will catch a nec much better yes



golem/bone armor tanks more before some low physical dmg ww start to dmg a nec, he will get away fast enough w/o talking dmg

This post was edited by Pari on Jul 11 2010 01:49pm