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Feb 13 2010 12:11pm
Basically we took damage samples in arena and catacombs using an armor with 1-4 defense in magical and physical. The characters base dexterity was 100 for all the tests. We took over 2000 samples for levels 45, 55 , 65.

J_B and I then did a spreadsheet that calculated your average damage taken based on your level, amount of vit/int, type of armor, amount of EE on that said armor. However the link for spreadsheet wasn't approved so I can't hand that out.

These are some graphics I made that illustrate quite well the relation between all these stats. If anyone has a more specific question I can probably answer it.

As far as leather armors go vs scale armors, they will give extremely similar results. They both have that same base defense, which is what your looking at. The scales will have a higher max defense of 12 (at tier 14) for physical defense and a lower one of 12 for magical defense. However this is quite irrelevant since the higher tier values aren't utilized at their full potential anyways. They will just give you a slightly higher % chance of getting a higher roll on the defense.

In higher amounts of EE (180+) scales and leathers will work practically exactly the same.




I also have similar conclusion for lower tiers however the conclusions will be the same so I didn't make any graphics. Their mostly for specific examples, if I ever want to calculate exact numbers.

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Feb 13 2010 12:31pm
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happy 7k posts

This post was edited by Djsem on Feb 13 2010 12:31pm
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Feb 13 2010 12:32pm
Awesome, ty ty ty ty
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Feb 13 2010 12:38pm
Awesome.

Ty guys :wub:
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Feb 13 2010 12:39pm
nice work but if I'm reading the graphs correctly, then just another disappointment in a long line of disappointments in LS. If i'm reading these correctly it shows that my decent plate mails are now worth less than what used to be a shitty but comparable statted scale, right? good news tho... people using those shitty scales can now go front in catas. no more getting by with purchasing a cheap armor and hiding behind tanks. If I'm misunderstanding, then please tell me.

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Feb 13 2010 12:42pm
Quote (Inaya @ Feb 13 2010 02:39pm)
nice work but if I'm reading the graphs correctly, then just another disappointment in a long line of disappointments in LS. If i'm reading these correctly it shows that my decent plate mails are now worth less than what used to be a shitty but comparable statted scale, right? good news tho... people using those shitty scales can now go front in catas. no more getting by with purchasing a cheap armor and hiding behind tanks. If I'm misunderstanding, then please tell me.

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not really

if your in cata's vs a evil melee wave plate or chain > scale or lower

same with robe vs evil caster wave

its just that scale/leathers will null most dmg since it will reduce most dmg down and you wont recieve full dmg from anything
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Feb 13 2010 12:46pm
nice work
if i'm reading this correctly its scales> chains> plates ? as far as ee is concerned
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Feb 13 2010 12:48pm
Quote (Djsem @ Feb 13 2010 01:42pm)
not really

if your in cata's vs a evil melee wave plate or chain > scale or lower

same with robe vs evil caster wave

its just that scale/leathers will null most dmg since it will reduce most dmg down and you wont recieve full dmg from anything


huh? so plate/chain is better, but then again no, scale/leather is better... is basically what you said.

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Quote (Inaya @ Feb 13 2010 02:48pm)
huh? so plate/chain is better, but then again no, scale/leather is better... is basically what you said.


fine ill give the yes and no answer

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Feb 13 2010 12:59pm
In higher EE's mediums are better. The more damage the monsters do the longer plates/chain perform up to par, however as EE increases mediums get a lot better.

The 65 arena graphic shows this. The crossover seems to happen at around 120-130 EE however in 55 arena the crossover is at around 90-100.

So since EP's do higher damage chains and plates will perform up to par (better?) for up to maybe... 140-150 EE I'm guessing. Depending on levels on EP's of course.

This post was edited by arxyn on Feb 13 2010 01:00pm
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