Quote (aneas @ 6 May 2016 21:06)
I've really seen improvements between Watzke and Rummenigge.
Hoeneß? Not so much... trying to get across an ouright LIE (Hummels being the one who contacted Bayern for a transfer by himself) just to shove it down BVB supporters' throat, make their view of their current captain even more negative and disturb them and also trying to ridicule Hummels...
MAYBE Watzke is not so wrong about Hoeneß... he's past it, he's lost touch and he still tried to interfere with Rummenigge's business. Rummenigge let him know that and looked confident when he put Hoeneß in his place. Maybe Hoeneß' time is really over...
Also, there is a HUGE difference between a player making a statement like that and officials trying to create disturbances... Hoeneß tried to do that with Hummels recently, Bayern also did that before the UCL final when they basically leaked the Götze transfer....
After the meeting in November you can say if Hoeneß time is over or not, until then its just speculation, iam pretty confident that Uli will be President again.
As far as i know the Götze thing someone else was about to leak so Bayern HAD to leak it
Quote (fender @ 6 May 2016 21:07)
technically you're right ofc. generally speaking is that none of his business - but to be fair, he was talking about the hummels (currently still "his" player) situation and how hoeneß said one thing and then rummenigge directly and publicly contradicted him.
also, as aneas already pointed out, it'd be pretty ironic to complain about it since this is the kind of thing bayern (used to be hoeneß, then the attack dog sammer) typically does. plus, there might actually be some truth to the statement itself...
Maybe Hummels contacted Bayern? And Watzke and Kalle are trying to protect him? Who knows? Uli is well known to tell the truth into people faces
I am a Bayernfan but Uli is way more sympatic than Kalle, i just remember how he talked about Ottmar Hitzfeld "Soccer is not math"...
Quote (aneas @ 6 May 2016 21:17)
That's enough for me.
I was under the impression you'd never even acknowledge this, just like lots of other Bayern supporters I know probably won't...
Also, that has nothing to do with wannabe intellectual stuff... it's my view and was supported by SOME (not all) of your very one-dimensional statements.
You'd be surprised... I'm not only not a Pep fanboy, I actually don't like him as a person (with SOME reasons being parts of his behaviour in Munich) AND I find most games where his style and approach are clearly visible boring as hell.
On the other hand I actually think that Pep's style is the best possible way of playing whenever you can consider yourself superior, like Bayern could in Bundesliga; that's why I said that Ancelotti will probably have a little easier time in UCL, but a much harder time in Bundesliga (which will nontheless go unnoticed with Dortmund being left without Hummels + Gündogan). And I still don't think that there is even the tiniest bit of truth in statements like, "every other coach would have won the leage ez over the last 3 years...". THIS year for example, chances are that without Pep's boring style and approach, Dortmund would have left Bayern behind, especially seeing the 2 direct duels between the teams...
I really think that Watzke and Rummenigge are fine with each other... it was basicallyHoeneß who interrupted their coming closer and establishing a more friendly business relation very harshly with his borderline retarded comment on Hummels.
You saying it was all Hoeneß fault? Dortmund was mad at the Lewandowksi case too, Uli was as far as i know in jail during that time.
Imo it´s all a big show, Hummels´transfer is 100% sure, they just try to publish it every day 1% more, they cant say "Hey, we just bought the captain of Bvb" Neither can Bvb say "We just sold our captain to our rival"
It has to be step by step. I dont think Kalle likes Watzke, nor i like Watzke, I dont think any Bayernfan like Watzke or Zorc, also i can say that no Dortmundfan likes Uli or Kalle.
But Uli´s effort is undescribable, there is no need that Dortmundfans like him.
He will be 99,9999999% sure president again. Without him this sh1t started, without him problems with Dr. Müller-Wohlfahrt, i dont think this would have happen if Uli would be President
This post was edited by Herolinda on May 6 2016 02:12pm