well the german footballnation is kinda split talking bout badstuber.im personally no fan of him,imo no bayern material.süle is on a good way to be one of the best defenders

yeah i rate him higher as well, but he needs playtime
if this injury mess continues it wont be a problem, but if not he is most likely only a backup

should stay at least one more year with hoffenheim imo

will be interesting to see how this will work out.the only thing im not rly sure is about rudy.guess he will never play

This post was edited by kroko89 on Jan 14 2017 05:38pm

that is really puzzling indeed, especially since ancelotti wants the club to give xabi another contract
if he leaves though it makes sense

even if he leaves i somehow believe that bayern would buy another player which is better than rudy but well lets see

This post was edited by kroko89 on Jan 14 2017 06:18pm

both transfers confirmed ^^

welcome süle and rudy

The thing is Süle and Badstuber are 2 entirely different kinds of players.... Badstuber is easily up there in the Top 5 of the world when it comes to modern CB skills like long passing and generally speaking of initiating plays from deep in their own half of the field. Badstuber is up there with the likes of Bonucci, Hummels and others.
Süle doesn't offer ANYTHING in that field, which makes me wonder why Bayern even signed him. Of course he is a great prospect, but he currently still is (and most likely will be for a long time to come) limited to being a strong CB relying on mostly physicality and a great timing with tackles. Süle is a great talent, but imo signing him is a step backwards with regards to tactical options and variability on the field. He doesn't offer anything that Martinez, Hummels or Boateng couldn't contribute to the defense, but lacks a lot they can.

This post was edited by aneas on Jan 15 2017 06:24am

i agree in general, but while possessing "modern" cb skills i always felt that badstuber was lacking "classic" defending skills and speed, even before all his injuries

call me old fashioned, but for me being a strong ball winner and battling against strikers is still the most important thing for a defender
if i look at the last 2-3 seasons there were quite a lot of games, where we lacked some good old scrappy defending
süle will surely improve is skills with the ball, training and playing with our boys

Who is this Rudy guy?

He's basically a worse version of any Bayern RB or CM he could be a backup for (except Sanches of course; doesn't get any worse than him tbh), i.e. Vidal, Kimmich, Alonso, Thiago, Lahm, Rafinha.

This post was edited by aneas on Jan 15 2017 06:55am