For Pvm , nothing beats an up'd rib cracker. Here's the actual numbers as tested instead of opinion.
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eth 3 sox tombi beats eth upped ripcracker easily, but as you probably won't get your hands on one of those rip is your only choice (though botd should also be considered)
Not true in actual kill speed/damage and for a cost comparison it's not even close. People that claim this pvm I think are just trying to justify their expensive weapons. While the lcs shows more damage, it's slower in practice on the tough stuff.
Etomb is nice if your pvp'ing, but for pvm its not as good.
Sums it up nicely.
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Verashiden
Yes, yes, I know. What I'm trying to say is that pound for pound, assuming the rest of the gear is the same Ribby edges out Tomby in Killing Effectiveness. I'm not trying to say Tomby is a bad weapon, because that would be a lie. What I am trying to say is that in PvM terms, while Tomby kills weaker creatures faster the stronger the monster becomes, the faster Ribby kills over Tomby.
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TheMadScientist MATHEMATICALLY MODELLED the killing speed of a Fury Wolf and ran tests to find the EXACT average killspeed of Fury using various different weapons and various different setups. Here are the top-20 weapons, mathematically speaking, assuming the character had 1000% off-weapon ED and was wearing Gore Riders. The first number is killspeed against a Frenzytaur, and the second number is killspeed against Hell Baal.
Ribcracker "RjoF"_____________________31.87 / 189.58
eth. Ribcracker "Zod"_________________31.18 / 202.24
eth. Windhammer "Zod"_________________32.82 / 195.75
Ribcracker "Shael"____________________33.62 / 195.06
Ribcracker "Ber"______________________34.69 / 189.30
Windhammer "Ber"______________________36.29 / 182.62
Death Champion Axe____________________31.28 / 221.23
rare Giant Thresher "RjoF-RjoF"_______25.59 / 279.85
Windhammer "Ohm"______________________38.68 / 213.64
Windhammer "Shael"____________________40.58 / 215.60
The Cranium Basher "Shael"____________41.46 / 219.28
rare Giant Thresher "LoLo"____________27.78 / 318.55
eth. Tomb Reaver "Zod-RjoF-RjoF"______29.49 / 307.35
IK Stone Crusher "RjoF-RjoF"__________40.37 / 232.25
eth. Hone Sundan "RjoF-RjoF-RjoF"_____39.84 / 261.55
IK Stone Crusher "Shael-Shael"________46.57 / 250.62
BotD Glorious Axe_____________________34.27 / 367.30
Tomb Reaver "RjoF-RjoF-RjoF"__________37.34 / 351.27
BotD Archon Staff_____________________34.72 / 370.50
BotD Thunder Maul_____________________34.20 / 382.68
TheMadScientist even created a separate chart detailing how the weapons did assuming different levels of off-weapon CB and DS. Even if you toss on Guillame's Face, Ribcracker will still win (although Tomb Reaver will come closer). It's not until you get 60% or more off-weapon CB that Tomb Reaver starts pulling ahead (which only makes sense, since going from 100% CB to 110% CB doesn't help Ribby any- no sane Fury Wolf would stack 60% CB on top of their Ribby).
This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Aug 31 2009 02:02pm
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