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Jan 16 2009 06:58pm
I am wanting to build a pvm paladin using vengeance for solo play, my question is and follow me here in my thinking first please...

Weapon: Famine Zerker Axe
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+320-370% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
Adds 180-200 Magic Damage
Adds 50-200 Fire Damage
Adds 51-250 Lightning Damage
Adds 50-200 Cold Damage
12% Life Stolen Per Hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Strength
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Armor: Fortitude
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck
+25% Faster Cast Rate
+300% Enhanced Damage
+200% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
+X To Life (Based on Character Level)*
Replenish Life +7
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
All Resistances +25-30 (varies)
Damage Reduced By 7
12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+1 To Light Radius
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Helmet: Guillaume's Face
Defense: 217 (Base Defense: 85-98)
Required Level: 34
Required Strength: 115
Durability: 40
+120% Enhanced Defense
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
15% Deadly Strike
35% Chance of Crushing Blow
+15 To Strength
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Boots: Gore Riders
Defense: 140-162 (varies)(Base Defense: 43-53)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 94
Durability: 34
Assassin Kick Damage: 39-80
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
30% Faster Run/Walk
10% Chance Of Open Wounds
15% Chance Of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
Requirements -25%
+20 Maximum Stamina
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Gloves: Soul Drainers
Defense: 129-149 (Base Defense: 59-67)
Required Level: 74
Required Strength: 106
Durability: 16
+90-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
4-7% Mana Stolen Per Hit (varies)
4-7% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
-50 To Monster Defense Per Hit
8% Chance To Cast Level 3 Weaken On Striking
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Belt: String of Ears
Defense: 102-113 (varies)(Base Defense: 29-34)
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 20
Durability: 22
16 Boxes
+150-180% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+15 Defense
6-8% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
Damage Reduced By 10-15% (varies)
Magic Damage Reduced 10-15 (varies)
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Shield: Phoenix Paladin Shield
100% Chance To Cast level 40 Blaze When You Level-up
40% Chance To Cast Level 22 Firestorm On Striking
Level 10-15 Redemption Aura When Equipped (varies)
+350-400 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
+350-400% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-28% To Enemy Fire Resistance
+50 To Life
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
+10% To Maximum Fire Resist
+15-21 Fire Absorb (varies)
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Amulet: Seraph's Hymn
+2 To All Skills
+1-2 To Defensive Auras (Paladin Only) (varies)
+20-50% Damage To Demons (varies)
+150-250 To Attack Rating Against Demons (varies)
+20-50% Damage To Undead (varies)
+150-250 To Attack Rating Against Undead (varies)
+2 To Light Radius
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Ring: Raven Frost
+150-250 To Attack Rating (varies)
Adds 15-45 Cold Damage, 4 sec. Duration (Normal)
Cannot Be Frozen
+15-20 To Dexterity (varies)
+40 To Mana
Cold Absorb 20%
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Ring: Bul-Katho's Wedding Band
+1 To All Skills
+ (0.5 Per Character Level) 0-49 To Life (Based On Character Level)
3-5% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+50 Maximum Stamina
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Now that all the items are gathered together, my basic question is
for my main aura would I use Fanaticism or Conviction? Beings that with
Vengeance adding so much magic/elemental damage, and the weapon choice
of Famine rune word, Conviction would be great to lower monster's def and resistances
but Fanaticism adds damage and speed to the attack, there is where my build gets stuck
any ideas on what to use for the main aura? Keep in mind this is for solo play pvm
just to have fun, and any suggestion on gear to be changed out would greatly be
appreciated, thank you all in advance.
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Jan 16 2009 07:01pm
Don't use famine, use something faster and more damaging like grief.
Also get better resists.
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Jan 16 2009 07:04pm
Quote (SymphonicX @ Sat, Jan 17 2009, 02:01am)
Don't use famine, use something faster and more damaging like grief. 
Also get better resists.


well that's my question at the end there in the red, if I do use famine should I use Fanaticism or if I use let's say grief, then would I use Conviction?
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Jan 16 2009 07:10pm
put a point in each and try them out for a while and see which works better.
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Jan 16 2009 07:14pm
I have made the pure vengeance build and quite honestly, it is hard, but decent.
I made alot of alterations to the build and only concentrated on one elemental damage.
Below are some ideas, do not delve into these builds, only use them for references and ideas.

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Quote (izParagonzi @ Wed, Apr 4 2007, 03:13pm)
..........This Build is Purely PvM & BM FCZon Killer..........

The main section here is based on PvM first, as for the FcZon section is only small and only take up minimal space. I have 3 Concepts of this build, but will
only work on the basic setup that most people will like to use. This of course is the Conviction Aura Vengeance Build. Even though this build is Vengeance,
I have found out with my setup that I use Zeal for Crowd control, and about 85% of the time compared to Vengeance. The use of Vengeange takes mana
and is best used on Council Members in Trav/Meph area, Baal (when he has 5pixels of life remaining), Andariel, other area monsters and Phys Immunes.

The hardest area is Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone lvl 3 & Throne on occassions. This is due to the fact that Iron Maiden does kill you. Your Vengeance
damage does Physical damage, and the elemental damage is a percentage of your physical damage added. Then Synergies.

Attributes (Stats):
Strength: NONE
Dexterity: Enough for equipment after other items or you can opt for max block, but then PvM who really cares.
Vitality: Rest
Energy: NONE

Items
Weapon: Lastwish Phase Blade
Helm Andariels Visage icon_pointl.gif Socket this with a 40/15 jewel. Cheap option is 15% ias jewel. You need the ias.
Armor Enigma MP
Amulet Mara's
Ring1 Ravenfrost
Ring2 Bk
Belt Thunder Gods
Boots Gore Riders
Gloves Crafted Gloves = 20ias, 9crushing blow, 18 life, other mods
Shield Pheonix 65%ed/107ar Vortex Shield Note: I hate potting too much and the 446% ed is nice.

Why did I choose Pheonix Vortex Shield
- 350-400% e/dmg = The extra dmg is good when using phase blade
- Redemption Aura = This really comes in handy as it leeches Mana/Life
- The Firestorm on casting = This is awesome with lvl30+ Conviction, the only Immune Fire that you will come across is Pit Lords in Chaos/Throne, & some Bosses.

Why did I choose Lastwish
- Fade = this helps your resistances and you can easily stack
- Lvl 17 Might Aura = this increases your damage again and you do not need to rely on merc with Pride
- Mf % based on character level = I like a little more mf when doing pits.
- Ignore Targets Defence = this comes in handy, but you still have a chance at missing them.
- Life Tap = Hmm, what can i say, you can still leech life off skellies.
- 330-375% e/dmg = again this helps you out.
- 60-70% Crushing Blow = with my setup now I reach 89% crushing blow: 65lw, 15gore & 9crafted gloves.
- Level 20 Charged Bolt on Attack = Now this is also good for extra damage. Considering that there are only a few bosses still Immune Lightning.

Why did I choose Andariels Visage
The real main reason is because of the 20% Increased Attack Speed. With an added 15% ias to the helm combined with 20% ias from gloves, this build
gets the last IAS break point when using a Phase Blade. IAS bp = 54%, with my setup = 55%. Now Andariels visage also has the nice +2 all skills, upto
10% Life Steal, extra Strength wich helps with damage and poison Resis with 10% max Poison. Downfall -30% fire res (well 3x 10% fire res sc's fix that).

Why did I choose Thunder Gods
Well basically the 20 strength that adds damage, of course 20 vitality for life, the 10% max light resistances and Light absorb.

Switch
Cta
Pally Spirit (res)

Inventory
This section is up to you what you want for your inventory other than the normal Torch and Anni.
What I have done is added Resistance small charms to cover Lightning & Fire (-30 from Andy's Visage)
and the rest with Life small charms with other mods. I have Cube, TP Tome and ID Tome and have
left myself six (6) squares for items.

Merc:
Act2 Holy Freeze
Ebugged Fort
Destruction
Andy's Visage or Vamp Gaze.

Skills:
20 Vengeance
20 Conviction
20 Light Resistance
20 Holy Shield
1 Salvation
1 Pre Requisites

Note: After all quests you should be finished at lvl81 for skills. NOW the extra points from there
is entirely up to you as in what to do. Myself personally (now lvl89) i have added 8 more points into Smite.
Reason for this is when coming up to FCzons duelling.

Why I chose to Max out Light Resistance Synergy
There are two (2) reasons:
1) In PvM, Lightning is a very strong element, if not the strongest. Also lightning immune is one of the easiest resistances to remove with Conviction.
2) This is purely for the BM FCzons, i just love putting this aura on and removing them from the game.


..........BM FCZon Killer..........
By the time this zon enters the game, you should already be Faded (which helps but not necessary), so go to your chest, stick on a Griefpb, wisp ring if you want
to really humiliate them, also maybe put on highlords, I mean what the hey, just go full out bm on them. Personally i do not change my setup, not really needed,
I just like making them leave the game.

Now simple as, put light res aura on, charge and smite them, just real simple, they do not know that you are light aura stacked if you do not show them the aura
or equip.

Just general info here: you can take on trappers with mb and light sorcs, i have on a few occassions and they did not expect me to survive or even kill them.
When trapper is hybrid, you will only win if you get them while they are laying traps or are too slow at ww'ing. Now hybrid Nova/Light, do not bother unless
you are confident on your skills with paladin.

I am not use to PvP with Paladin, but this one i can semi handle now, but will never be a master with this char class.

Please Enjoy, and any comments are truely welcome.








Quote (izParagonzi @ Fri, Oct 10 2008, 09:54am)
~@~ Gris Set LIGHT Avenger ~@~

I got bored, so I decided to do the usual, and post an old build that I used in 1.10.
You will probably have alot of questions, maybe just call me a noob or whatever,
my suggestion, just say what you want, it is about discussing things anyway.

Let us get started, first of all, I wanted a Noob looking character in pub games.
Help team with conviction aura and also be able to kill, on occassions Pub kill FCzons
and the occassional noob trapper and light sorcs.

Attributes (Stats):
Strength: NONE
Dexterity: Enough for equipment after other items or you can opt for max block.
Vitality: Rest
Energy: NONE

Skills:
20 Vengeance
20 Conviction
20 Light Resistance
20 Holy Shield
1 Salvation
1 Pre Requisites

Note: After all quests you should be finished at lvl81 for skills. NOW the extra points from there
is entirely up to you as in what to do.

Why I chose to Max out Light Resistance Synergy
In PvM, Lightning is a very strong element, if not the strongest. Also lightning immune is one of the easiest resistances to remove with Conviction.

Pre Note: Using Cadaceus weapon you will need to reach 109%ias to get last bp.
40% on Gris wpn
75% from 5x 15%ias jewels
115% ias Total with this setup.

Items:
Gris Helm:
- Cham = Cannot Be Frozen
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Armor:
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Weapon: Automatic 40%ias
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Zod = Indestructible = But you can choose any other option NOTE: i did this because of repair.
Gris Shield
- Minus 15 req jewel with any mods
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- Light Facet = You can choose anything
Boots:
- Sandstorm Treks
Ammy:
- Mara's/Seraphs/Angelics
Ring1:
- Rare mana leech/15+ str
Ring2
- Bk/Soj/Angelics
Belt:
- Tgods = 20str is what you are after or anything to your choosing
Gloves:
- Draculs Grasp No other.

Switch:
Cta
Spirit

Inventory:
Besides the standard Torch/Anni, the rest is up to you, with this build you can use more mf charms, dmg/ar/life Anything.
Also with the Medium Armor and Shield, you will notice your run walk speed to be slow, so you may want some frw sc's with
mods to help you out.

Complete Set Bonus
+3 To Paladin Skill Levels
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+200 To Attack Rating
+20 To Strength
+30 To Dexterity
+150 To Life
All Resistances +50
Display Aura

View Arreat on Item Bonuses:
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/sets/sets5.shtml#griswoldslegacy

End Note:
Yes there are better setups, there are better items, there are a ton of cookies out, but this is just for the Hell of it, and if you are in pub game and kill while people calling you a noob, on the inside you can just laugh at them.


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 16 2009 07:19pm
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well to be honest after reading your guide there using Gris set, I actually like this idea better than my own, and I like the way it would look

thank you for the great idea imo hail.gif
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Jan 16 2009 07:39pm
Quote (Marooned @ Fri, Jan 16 2009, 05:04pm)
well that's my question at the end there in the red, if I do use famine should I use Fanaticism or if I use let's say grief, then would I use Conviction?


Conviction. I suggest maxing it to get the -%def realy high, and the -150 res will help quite a bit.

I suggest using an Ebotd / grief / fort
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Quote (MASTER_ECHO @ Sat, Jan 17 2009, 02:39am)
Conviction. I suggest maxing it to get the -%def realy high, and the -150 res will help quite a bit.

I suggest using an Ebotd / grief / fort


well in my head I see that Vengeance uses so much elemental and magic damage, wouldn't having Famine runeword add so much more to it rather than just using

grief or ebotdz? I'm not dualing, this is pure pvm player, I'm sure I won't need one hit kills ya know? thank you for your opinion though, I'll be trying all these

suggestions out in some point of time.
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Quote (Marooned @ Sun, Jan 18 2009, 04:28am)
well in my head I see that Vengeance uses so much elemental and magic damage, wouldn't having Famine runeword add so much more to it rather than just using

grief or ebotdz? I'm not dualing, this is pure pvm player, I'm sure I won't need one hit kills ya know? thank you for your opinion though, I'll be trying all these

suggestions out in some point of time.


I have tried Famine, yes the elemental damage is a bonus, it works well, but the physical return on the type of weapon you use, does not give much MANA/Life return from leeching to make it a viable.

I think you will be potting a bit more than you would like, even with Phoenix on, but not 100% sure.

Vengeance: adds Fire/Cold & Lightning damage only.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 17 2009 01:51pm
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Jan 17 2009 01:56pm
dont use famine, it adds elemental dmg, but vengeance will do it for you, find a high physiqual dmg weapon with speed. afther 5 secs u think: ebotd, up to 400ed with 60 ias and greif up to 400dmg and 40ias
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