pretty sure dragon has the power to control winds

he did it in loguetown

calm the fuck down

Sabo is definitely stronger than Luffy.

He probably has conqueror's Haki too, would be pretty pissed if he didn't.

This post was edited by Simon11 on Apr 10 2014 10:43pm

meh. don't think he is stronger. Nor can anyone say "Definitely" We really haven't seen Luffy all out with out any disadvantage.

Sabo is clearly strong, and once he gets the hang of the mera mera fruit
He's probably gonna be off the chain, but as it stands now, we haven't seen
Enough of his power to know how strong he really is in comparison to
Luffy or anyone for that matter

the rev army has ivankov and Bartholomew, so they cant be that weak either

everyone have heard of Sabo from the rev army, as the 2nd strongest. But why Luffy has not ^^

Well remember before the time skip which lasted what 2 years I think?

He was alone on the island with no way to get news

it's safe to assume that after ace's death sabo was also like luffy and wanted to become even stronger and rose up in rank during those 2 years

after the training was done he was only on fishman island and punk hazard for less then a month probably im not sure

and since luffy doesnt check newspapers or even keep up with the state of the world ( it's normally robin and nami who does that)
it's safe to assume that luffy would have no idea about sabo ( the better question was why didn't sabo contact luffy and ace afterwards? was it because he needed to stay hidden as apart of the rev army? )

just because the leader is strong doesnt mean his followers are



ivankov is pretty weak in terms of fighting, and kuma is basically a pacisifsta that luffy wasted with ease

false, Kuma is infinitely stronger then the regular pascifistas.