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Jun 18 2008 05:46am
Quote (lithfkn @ Wed, Jun 18 2008, 12:41am)
Yes but i dont want a religious bias. I want actual facts and logic used. None of this "its a sin" hogwash.


Well...keep looking, I suppose you could find someone who wants all of the "moral" aspects of society without being religious, but morality is the main reason people fight against it, and as its not guarenteed in the Constitution, nor are they being discriminated against...it is up to us, the voters.

Black - No, it will be very close. It is not afforded by constitutional rights, so they must go through the people. The Supreme Court of California overturned a 60%+ vote of the people banning gay marriage, it will almost certainly go back on the ballot in November, and ban it once more...if that happens, its permament, and the Californian Courts cannot overrule it.
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Jun 18 2008 06:54am
Where do we draw the line though?

Will poligamy become legal? What about marriage between cousins?

I think this is opening a door to many things to come.
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Jun 18 2008 07:17am
Quote (IceMage @ Wed, Jun 18 2008, 12:00pm)
People being murdered in Africa every day doesn't effect your life at all, do you not care about that either?


Zzz..

Why do people insist on comparing murder to gays. Mass murder in your reference. Its a fucking stupid argument.

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Jun 18 2008 08:33am
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Where do we draw the line though?
Will poligamy become legal? What about marriage between cousins?
I think this is opening a door to many things to come.


the media might have fooled me but it seems that polygamy and marriage between cousins
is pretty much accepted in texas, just look at that mormon splinter sect
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the media might have fooled me but it seems that polygamy and marriage between cousins
is pretty much accepted in texas, just look at that mormon splinter sect


it's accepted in mormonism. Doesnt mean everyone else accepts it.
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Jun 18 2008 09:38am
Quote (Dune1 @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008, 15:33)
it's accepted in mormonism. Doesnt mean everyone else accepts it.


it's done by some mormons and ACCEPTED by at least teaxs, else they would be prosecuted
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Jun 18 2008 11:50am
Quote (Dune1 @ Wed, Jun 18 2008, 03:33pm)
it's accepted in mormonism. Doesnt mean everyone else accepts it.


It is not accepted in Mormonism.

The polygamist sect was disowned by the Mormon Church awhile ago...they do not condone polygamy in any of its forms.
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Jun 18 2008 12:29pm
Quote (Dune1 @ Wed, Jun 18 2008, 12:54pm)
Where do we draw the line though?

Will poligamy become legal?  What about marriage between cousins?

I think this is opening a door to many things to come.


And polygamy and marriage between cousins affects you how?

Stop with the slippery slope arguments. Deal with issues as they are, If we're talking about gay marriage, talk about gay marriage. Since no one is talking about polygamy, it is irrelevant.
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And polygamy and marriage between cousins affects you how? 

Stop with the slippery slope arguments.  Deal with issues as they are,  If we're talking about gay marriage, talk about gay marriage.  Since no one is talking  about polygamy, it is irrelevant.


I can understand the marriage between cousins being illegal...
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Jun 18 2008 12:32pm
Quote (IceMage @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 07:02pm)
I bet in 50 years you can marry your animal.

Maybe even a child, who knows. You could use the same argument that "same sex-marriagers" are using.


Agree, what a sad day it is.

On a side note.

Fuck fudge-packers...

That's right, I hate people that package chocolate.
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