i ran some numbers on off weap ed% gear (fort and rends) and the 360%ed only adds about 6000 avg dmg at the expense of dr%, res, and life. you need considerably more str input to hit rends high str req. even with just fort, you lose out on coh/btal's large res bonus, causing you to sacrifice more AR in charms for res lifers.

long story short: you get a minimal increase in dmg at the expense of other more important mods.

Loved the first charge guide, though never got a chance to make it(resetting ladder and already had a gosu smiter)

Love this guide and hope to make a Smite/Charge combo my 1st Lad season4 PvPer.

Can't wait to get enough gear off my Mfer so I can try this.

could i see the equation you use to calculate damage

personally i think Rends> dracs cuz rends give over 100% ed with str/ed/str to use them

and i still have 3.7k life with ar life gcs

What you do against Bone Necro's who use Bone Prison alot ?

forgot to mention that you need enigma in stash for situations like this.



i take the min and max damage of the weapon and mult by (1+charge ed%+fanat ed%+off weap ed%+str%)

example: hypothetical char using axe (1-4 dmg) and 1600% charge ed 526% fanat ed 174 in str and steelrend 60% off weap ed
min: 1*(1+16+5.26+1.74+.6)
max: 4*(1+16+5.26+1.74+.6)

technically you need to add in +max dmg from charms as well but im lazy.

as you can see, rends gives 60%ed and 20 str. since dracs gives us 15str already, replacing with rends gives a net gain of 5 str. so the total added bonus to our damage is .6+.05, or .65

now consider that you have to add hard pts into str to hit 185 for rends whereas, with dracul, the +15 str is used to help reach other heavier gear. this 15 is used in vitality. dracul also adds to our open wounds %, so if the opponent manages to survive a charge, they'll bleed after they take the charge damage. not to mention the life leech is very useful vs a druids wolves.

overall you have a fairly significant loss in life for more damage (my ladder build is at 55 base str... so that's 95 after torch/anni, meaning you have to invest just short of 100 points into str aka lose 300 life to equip steelrend). in my opinion, it isn't worth it.

edit: forgot to mention that the added defense on rends is negligible since you dont have holy shield or defiance.

This post was edited by xBLITZKRIEGx on Dec 23 2007 02:01am

Whats the viability of using about half your Inv for Pcombs and the other half for 20 lifer Sc's on a Hybrid (ladder)?
Obv. Torch and Anni...

Just wondering since I've got a billion 20 life Sc's on a mule, lmao

Very nice guide, maybe i will try it.

charms are the most expensive thing on this build. any smiter will tell you more pcombs is obviously better than less since they add considerable dmg without cutting into your life too much.

when i listed gear, i listed the best options available - i realize a lot of people cant afford some of these builds. id recommend making due with whatever you can if you dont have tons of fg. id start with plain pcombs and upgrade to lifers as i mf'd. alternately you could use those life sc's in place of the pcombs until you build up some gold. its a tradeoff of dmg vs survivability. i generally dont make a character until i have a majority of the gear purchased. i continue to mf until i can afford him.

give pictures , please


@: omg mat reading this topic /,,/