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Apr 26 2024 08:02am
since they changed dodges? never rly played amazon in d2r ever so

might work on a hybrid cs + plague telejava for pubs but wondering if i should use shadow dancers for stormshield setup (i mean its good boots anyway and i'll have the str anyway cos of ss)

could be fun char to lock ppl down :D besides the impale adds onto the bm with 50% slow vs certain opponents

i don't lose much to get the 30 fhr, is it worth anything tho?

This post was edited by Stefbef on Apr 26 2024 08:12am
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Apr 26 2024 08:36am
I have 0 fhr on my tele bow plague hybrid but travs are a huge boost to bow damage so not sure if you are going only javs. I also use ed/-15 in ss so no way I want the str req for dancers.

I don’t think fhr is very important on zon since DAE and block.
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Apr 26 2024 08:38am
Quote (NateFizzle @ 26 Apr 2024 16:36)
I have 0 fhr on my tele bow plague hybrid but travs are a huge boost to bow damage so not sure if you are going only javs. I also use ed/-15 in ss so no way I want the str req for dancers.

I don’t think fhr is very important on zon since DAE and block.


hmm well even with -req jewel stormshield will have 133 str req and it will give 30, so 163 after storm but dancers is 167

but yeah its different on bowie, i dont mind not being able to wear dancers on my cta swap but for bowie wt is better ofc :>
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Apr 26 2024 02:06pm
id still use travs. The reality of plague jav is that most people wont duel you once you use it. Youll still want high phys on LF to counter any sorb from cs.
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Apr 26 2024 04:11pm
Dodge passive has built in fhr. No fhr is needed imo
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Apr 26 2024 05:05pm
there are a whole crap ton of steps you have to go through to even trigger a fhr animation on a zon and you can't get stunlocked in them even if they miraculously happen twice in a row
if you've got enough HP that attacks might only do 37.5% fhr threshold and only 1/3 of attacks get past DAE and then 75% of physical attacks are blocked, well you'd be building to mitigate a few frames difference in recovery after 3% of phys / 12.5% of elemental attacks strong enough to damage you and threaten to interrupt you (but not those strong enough to just kill you outright in which case FHR means nothing anyway)

you can comfortably go 0% fhr and never notice, you wouldn't complain about getting FHR on a rare circlet build but its not a big upside even if it has it, and certainly not worth sacrificing boot slot
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Apr 26 2024 06:26pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 27 Apr 2024 01:05)
there are a whole crap ton of steps you have to go through to even trigger a fhr animation on a zon and you can't get stunlocked in them even if they miraculously happen twice in a row
if you've got enough HP that attacks might only do 37.5% fhr threshold and only 1/3 of attacks get past DAE and then 75% of physical attacks are blocked, well you'd be building to mitigate a few frames difference in recovery after 3% of phys / 12.5% of elemental attacks strong enough to damage you and threaten to interrupt you (but not those strong enough to just kill you outright in which case FHR means nothing anyway)

you can comfortably go 0% fhr and never notice, you wouldn't complain about getting FHR on a rare circlet build but its not a big upside even if it has it, and certainly not worth sacrificing boot slot


Good to know thx for info :>
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