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Apr 27 2024 11:20am
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. What does history have to do with biological classification?


Because your concept of biological classification did not exist until recently.
Before that, everyone would have not only agreed with me, they would have hated you for suggesting otherwise.
Why is that?
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Because your concept of biological classification did not exist until recently.
Before that, everyone would have not only agreed with me, they would have hated you for suggesting otherwise.
Why is that?


Got it. You take your definitions from antiquity. I'm not interested in how things were historically classified, I'm interested in what is true.
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Got it. You take your definitions from antiquity. I'm not interested in how things were historically classified, I'm interested in what is true.


Word have meaning.
Anyone wanting or willing to change them should be treated with scorn and their word discarded.
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Word have meaning.
Anyone wanting or willing to change them should be treated with scorn and their word discarded.


This isn't a language game where some people want to change the meaning of words. It's about our understanding of biology. There is more genetic variance within so-call racial groups than there is between so-called racial groups. the boundaries between racial categories are arbitrary and vary depending on cultural and historical factors.

If the boundaries between racial categories are arbitrary, then they aren't useful because they are made up rather than established or determined.

The idea that so-called racial groups are actually different races from other groups of humans is largely rejected as a historical social construct, rather than an actual biological classification.

Someone didn't just decide that the way you define the word race should change, through biology and the scientific process we determined your definition is wrong.
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This isn't a language game where some people want to change the meaning of words. It's about our understanding of biology. There is more genetic variance within so-call racial groups than there is between so-called racial groups. the boundaries between racial categories are arbitrary and vary depending on cultural and historical factors.

If the boundaries between racial categories are arbitrary, then they aren't useful because they are made up rather than established or determined.

The idea that so-called racial groups are actually different races from other groups of humans is largely rejected as a historical social construct, rather than an actual biological classification.

Someone didn't just decide that the way you define the word race should change, through biology and the scientific process we determined your definition is wrong.


But they aren't arbitrary at all.
If they was, variances in crime stats wouldn't exist.
What you are suggesting can literally get a person killed.

edit: Just curious, why do think bluejays don't hang out with blackbirds?

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For me it was a movie called Gattaca


I didn't even know this movie existed ty.

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Grats now you can visit the restricted areas of the jspccp comrade. Next is mod tag?

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