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Nov 7 2023 01:30pm
What do we think about Cades future? I think he has the potential to be a really good #3 on a contender if he adapts his mindset and works on his defense. I don’t see much resembling a #1 option on anything but a tanking team. Granted he needs to get his legs back and how he performs from like January-April will be more telling. Looks like the Pistons are trying to pump up a couple players who shouldn’t be getting as many minutes or touches probably to trade before the deadline
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Nov 7 2023 01:39pm
Lol you absolutely adore these condescending criticism threads
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Lol you absolutely adore these condescending criticism threads


The comparisons for Cade were Harden/Luka coming in. Cade's athleticism is extremely poor for someone who's supposed to be a primary scorer and playmaker hybrid though. He’ll always be a disappointing #1 overall when there are others like Wemby, Paolo, and Ant in recent seasons showing more promise.

Detroit is not doing him any favors. He has no one who can help him get easy shots and he’s playing in one of the worst offensive lineup’s imaginable. Killian/Thompson/Duren is just brutal spacing. Poor percentages and turnovers can be fixed as he and his squad grow/change to be more applicable to his skill set.
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Nov 7 2023 08:58pm
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The comparisons for Cade were Harden/Luka coming in. Cade's athleticism is extremely poor for someone who's supposed to be a primary scorer and playmaker hybrid though. He’ll always be a disappointing #1 overall when there are others like Wemby, Paolo, and Ant in recent seasons showing more promise.

Detroit is not doing him any favors. He has no one who can help him get easy shots and he’s playing in one of the worst offensive lineup’s imaginable. Killian/Thompson/Duren is just brutal spacing. Poor percentages and turnovers can be fixed as he and his squad grow/change to be more applicable to his skill set.


Detroit should hire you to curate their team and develop their players for them
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Nov 7 2023 09:55pm
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Detroit should hire you to curate their team and develop their players for them


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Nov 8 2023 12:38pm
Quote (MildSambal @ 7 Nov 2023 14:30)
What do we think about Cades future? I think he has the potential to be a really good #3 on a contender if he adapts his mindset and works on his defense. I don’t see much resembling a #1 option on anything but a tanking team. Granted he needs to get his legs back and how he performs from like January-April will be more telling. Looks like the Pistons are trying to pump up a couple players who shouldn’t be getting as many minutes or touches probably to trade before the deadline


Still too young

Bron didnt get to a finals before 2007 and didnt win a ring until 2012,

Jordan was (quoting Isiah Thompson) complete trash in the 80's


Luka and Trae have poisoned the minds of fans thinking that if someone doesnt come out of the gate scoring 30 ppg then they are barely a third option trash player, that just simply isn't true.

Right NOW Cade could be a third option ona Championship team that is saying a fuck of a lot, Kyle Lowry was the third option on a Championship team, Jrue Holiday was the Third option on a championship team. Klay Thompson is a third option on a championship team, you are saying Cade is as good as Klay Thompson right now? Imagine how good Cade will be with 2-3 more years of leading a young team.

Way too early to define his career imo.

You need to let it ride right now and hope management can convince a good PG to join the team on a long contract to keep Cade. Maybe they don't win a ring but if Cade can get them to a second or third round by his 5th year that would be pretty decent start to his career no?

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Still too young

Bron didnt get to a finals before 2007 and didnt win a ring until 2012,

Jordan was (quoting Isiah Thompson) complete trash in the 80's


Luka and Trae have poisoned the minds of fans thinking that if someone doesnt come out of the gate scoring 30 ppg then they are barely a third option trash player, that just simply isn't true.

Right NOW Cade could be a third option ona Championship team that is saying a fuck of a lot, Kyle Lowry was the third option on a Championship team, Jrue Holiday was the Third option on a championship team. Klay Thompson is a third option on a championship team, you are saying Cade is as good as Klay Thompson right now? Imagine how good Cade will be with 2-3 more years of leading a young team.

Way too early to define his career imo.

You need to let it ride right now and hope management can convince a good PG to join the team on a long contract to keep Cade. Maybe they don't win a ring but if Cade can get them to a second or third round by his 5th year that would be pretty decent start to his career no?


historically you usually know really quickly if a lottery pick is a stud or not

just look at the recent break-out young stars

Anthony Edwards - star potential showed in the 2nd half of his rookie season
LaMelo Ball - entire rookie season
Franz Wagner - entire rookie season
Paolo - instant star potential
Ja Morant - instant star potential
Zion - instant star potential
Trae Young - 2nd half of rookie season
Tyler Herro - rookie season
Donovan Mitchell - rookie season

even guys that got lower usage early on, you knew pretty quickly they were studs

Tyrese Haliburton
SGA
Tyrese Maxey

expect Trey Murphy III to join the above group

it's much more rare for a guy to take that leap after being horribly inefficient early. This is now Cades 3rd season and he still has some red flags popping up (granted his team is awful)

To be able to excel in the NBA without elite athleticism, you need to have a deep bag. Luka is able to do what he does because you have to respect his shot, his vision and his dribble. Currently with Cade, you don't really need to respect his shot or dribble - vision is debatable as well with this high TOs…

You can tell Cade relied on bullying smaller players in college and hasn’t yet adjusted to having relatively average athleticism for an NBA player. The hype about him was being a jumbo playmaker but he is built more as a guard than a forward

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Quote (MildSambal @ 8 Nov 2023 13:58)
historically you usually know really quickly if a lottery pick is a stud or not

just look at the recent break-out young stars

Anthony Edwards - star potential showed in the 2nd half of his rookie season
LaMelo Ball - entire rookie season
Franz Wagner - entire rookie season
Paolo - instant star potential
Ja Morant - instant star potential
Zion - instant star potential
Trae Young - 2nd half of rookie season
Tyler Herro - rookie season
Donovan Mitchell - rookie season

even guys that got lower usage early on, you knew pretty quickly they were studs

Tyrese Haliburton
SGA
Tyrese Maxey

expect Trey Murphy III to join the above group

it's much more rare for a guy to take that leap after being horribly inefficient early. This is now Cades 3rd season and he still has some red flags popping up (granted his team is awful)

To be able to excel in the NBA without elite athleticism, you need to have a deep bag. Luka is able to do what he does because you have to respect his shot, his vision and his dribble. Currently with Cade, you don't really need to respect his shot or dribble - vision is debatable as well with this high TOs…

You can tell Cade relied on bullying smaller players in college and hasn’t yet adjusted to having relatively average athleticism for an NBA player. The hype about him was being a jumbo playmaker but he is built more as a guard than a forward


sure but we were talking about how Russell Westbrook was a stuf that was going to win a million rings and harden is a stud thats going to win a million rings

but the career fizzles out all the same

kd has only won rings becuase he is a snake leech little baby back bitch that needs to join a team with the greatest pg of all time to win rings so KD is still just as shit as Harden and Westbrook imo

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Lol you absolutely adore these condescending criticism threads


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