Excellent Guide morpheus! , im gonna print this out and read it while i go to work , very comprehensive ,and very exciting !!!

I cannot belive that this info was not included in the original 7 posts. My bad people.

Area Levels

Act N NM Hell Level Name
Act 1 Rogue Encampment
Act 1 1 36 67 Blood Moor
Act 1 2 36 68 Cold Plains
Act 1 4 37 68 Stony Field
Act 1 5 38 68 Dark Wood
Act 1 6 38 69 Black Marsh
Act 1 8 39 69 Tamoe Highland
Act 1 1 36 79 Den of Evil
Act 1 2 36 77 Cave Level 1
Act 1 4 37 69 Underground Passage Level 1
Act 1 5 38 80 Hole Level 1
Act 1 7 39 85 Pit Level 1
Act 1 2 37 78 Cave Level 2
Act 1 4 38 83 Underground Passage Level 2
Act 1 5 39 81 Hole Level 2
Act 1 7 40 85 Pit Level 2
Act 1 3 36 80 Burial Grounds
Act 1 3 37 83 Crypt
Act 1 3 37 85 Mausoleum
Act 1 7 38 75 Tower Cellar Level 1
Act 1 7 39 76 Tower Cellar Level 2
Act 1 7 40 77 Tower Cellar Level 3
Act 1 7 41 78 Tower Cellar Level 4
Act 1 7 42 79 Tower Cellar Level 5
Act 1 8 40 70 Monastery Gate
Act 1 9 40 70 Outer Cloister
Act 1 9 40 70 Barracks
Act 1 10 41 71 Jail Level 1
Act 1 10 41 71 Jail Level 2
Act 1 10 41 71 Jail Level 3
Act 1 10 41 72 Inner Cloister
Act 1 11 42 72 Cathedral
Act 1 11 42 72 Catacombs Level 1
Act 1 11 42 73 Catacombs Level 2
Act 1 12 43 73 Catacombs Level 3
Act 1 12 43 73 Catacombs Level 4
Act 1 6 39 76 Tristram
Act 1 28 64 81 Moo Moo Farm
Act 2 14 43 75 Rocky Waste
Act 2 15 44 76 Dry Hills
Act 2 16 45 76 Far Oasis
Act 2 17 46 77 Lost City
Act 2 18 46 77 Valley of Snakes
Act 2 16 48 79 Canyon of the Magi
Act 2 13 43 74 Sewers Level 1
Act 2 13 43 74 Sewers Level 2
Act 2 14 44 75 Sewers Level 3
Act 2 13 47 78 Harem Level 2
Act 2 13 47 78 Palace Cellar Level 1
Act 2 13 47 78 Palace Cellar Level 2
Act 2 13 48 78 Palace Cellar Level 3
Act 2 12 44 78 Stony Tomb Level 1
Act 2 12 44 79 Halls of the Dead Level 1
Act 2 13 45 81 Halls of the Dead Level 2
Act 2 14 47 82 Claw Viper Temple Level 1
Act 2 12 44 79 Stony Tomb Level 2
Act 2 13 45 82 Halls of the Dead Level 3
Act 2 14 47 83 Claw Viper Temple Level 2
Act 2 17 45 84 Maggot Lair Level 1
Act 2 17 45 84 Maggot Lair Level 2
Act 2 17 46 85 Maggot Lair Level 3
Act 2 17 46 85 Ancient Tunnels
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Tal Rasha's Tomb
Act 2 17 49 80 Duriel's Lair
Act 2 14 48 79 Arcane Sanctuary
Act 3 21 49 79 Spider Forest
Act 3 21 50 80 Great Marsh
Act 3 22 50 80 Flayer Jungle
Act 3 22 52 80 Lower Kurast
Act 3 22 52 81 Kurast Bazaar
Act 3 23 52 81 Upper Kurast
Act 3 24 53 81 Kurast Causeway
Act 3 24 54 82 Travincal
Act 3 21 50 79 Spider Cave (Arachnid Lair)
Act 3 21 50 79 Spider Cavern
Act 3 21 51 80 Swampy Pit Level 1
Act 3 21 51 81 Swampy Pit Level 2
Act 3 22 51 81 Flayer Dungeon Level 1
Act 3 22 51 82 Flayer Dungeon Level 2
Act 3 21 51 82 Swampy Pit Level 3
Act 3 22 51 83 Flayer Dungeon Level 3
Act 3 23 52 84 Sewers Level 1
Act 3 24 53 85 Sewers Level 2
Act 3 23 53 84 Ruined Temple (In Kurast Bazaar)
Act 3 23 53 84 Disused Fane (In Kurast Bazaar)
Act 3 23 53 84 Forgotten Reliquary (In Upper Kurast)
Act 3 24 54 85 Forgotten Temple (In Upper Kurast)
Act 3 24 54 85 Ruined Fane (In Kurast Causeway)
Act 3 24 54 85 Disused Reliquary (In Kurast Causeway)
Act 3 25 55 83 Durance of Hate Level 1
Act 3 25 55 83 Durance of Hate Level 2
Act 3 25 55 83 Durance of Hate Level 3
Act 4 26 56 82 Outer Steppes
Act 4 26 56 83 Plains of Despair
Act 4 27 57 84 City of the Damned
Act 4 27 57 85 River of Flame
Act 4 28 58 85 Chaos Sanctum
Act 5 24 58 80 Bloody Foothills
Act 5 25 59 81 Rigid Highlands
Act 5 26 60 81 Arreat Plateau
Act 5 29 61 82 Crystalized Cavern Level 1 (Crystalline Passage)
Act 5 29 61 83 Cellar of Pity (Frozen River)
Act 5 29 61 83 Crystalized Cavern Level 2 (Glacial Trail)
Act 5 29 61 84 Echo Chamber (Drifter Cavern)
Act 5 27 60 81 Tundra Wastelands (Frozen Tundra)
Act 5 29 62 82 Glacial Caves Level 1 (Ancient's Way)
Act 5 29 62 83 Glacial Caves Level 2 (Icy Cellar)
Act 5 37 68 87 Rocky Summit (Arreat Summit)
Act 5 32 63 83 Nihlathak's Temple
Act 5 33 63 83 Halls of Anguish
Act 5 34 64 84 Halls of Death's Calling (Halls of Pain)
Act 5 36 64 84 Halls of Vaught
Act 5 39 60 81 Hell 1 (Abaddon)
Act 5 39 61 82 Hell 2 (Pit of Acheron)
Act 5 39 62 83 Hell 3 (Infernal Pit)
Act 5 39 65 85 The Worldstone Keep Level 1
Act 5 40 65 85 The Worldstone Keep Level 2
Act 5 42 66 85 The Worldstone Keep Level 3
Act 5 43 66 85 Throne of Destruction
Act 5 43 66 85 The Worldstone Chamber

Great job man, one of the best written guides

(Yes I know I could have made a separate thread, but I want to get ppls opinions here)

New ladder means mfing...

I made a sorc, hated and used for a few days to get started. I have a 91java with some good eq and she mf's eld/shenk/pindle when not lvling but I like 2 mf chars so when I gt bored of 1 I swap.


Now, I love the CS, its a great area to mf and exp. And I love amas.... so I want to make my next mf char a bowa, preferably to mf the CS. I'm not uber poor but not uber rich on ladder yet either.

All the enemies are undead/daemon. Would an upp'd goldstrike be a good weapon? Regardless of weapon I will always be going for max ias bp over mf.

Basicly I want to know from ppl that know: can an ama with reasonably good gear but, sicne its a new ladder, nothing godly yet, quickly and efficiently solo the cs in hell single player for the purpose of mfing (I don't want to take too long for the runs)

Thanks chaps.

If you actually read the guide and saw the screenies of what i use, you can see that there are really only 2 expensive pieces on the zon.

The Lo for forti armor and the windforce bow. Ist in delirium can be had from forge so i do not consider it hard to acquire. The rest is basic "use what you find" garb.

wow nice thx ima try it

gg guide

Don't understand what your trying to say. I've read through it at least twice, and skimmed it many more. You know this as we have communicated through pm. And you ignored my actual question, which is why I asked it here.. to get your opinion. PM me the answeer if you feel you won't want to say it in this thread?

Can a semi-budget zon (bearing in mind it's a new ladder and any hr's will be going to my lvling javas Infinity first) clear the cs relatively fast? Will an upp'd WW'S+Maras cut it? maybe for the pits where it has been mentioned the enemies are weaker. I don't want to make the build and find out it can't do what it's used for and I intend to use it to mf the CS, pits only if she fails in cs.

I thought it was quite a simple question asked in a polite manner and tbh really didn't need such ignorance on your part.

Freakin ouch man, lemme get that knife out of my back before I answer your question.

Will a WWS + Maras on a strafer be able to do hell chaos games? Well, maybe. If you are wearing Laying of Hands gloves, then absolutly. If you are not, then you might run into problems clearing the place. There are better amulets than Mara's for this task as well. Sure the +2 skills are nice for casting Valk and who cannot use resistances. HOWEVER, the skills and resistacnes do not mean crap if your dead because you didnt meet the next IAS break point. Highlords is far cheaper than a Mara's so I feel fine suggesting it to you. If you have not yet placed things inside the bow, i would suggest nef + shael. Nef for the sole purpose of knockback and Shael for the IAS. This rune combination frees up your glove spot to be interchangeable with many different gloves. You will no longer be bound to have crafted gloves in order to get knockback. I would also suggest to not use a Delirium hat as the confuse will overwrite your amp from WWS. I would also suggest, IF you cannot find or get a Highlords, use ATMA's amulet. Having 2 sources of CtC amp will not hurt. I would not bother with an act 2 merc here as IM is surely gonna get him. I would rely more on my decoy ( with atleast 5 hard points into her ) and valk to tank for me. THen again, when amped, CS triggers, DS triggers, +350% ED to a deamon, there really should not be a problem clearing the Sanctuary.

As far as all this is concerned, the above paragraph was discussed somewhere back around post # 50 or so in this guide. So if this answers your questions here, it should have answered your questions back there.

As far as the bolded word in your quote. I think you meant to use the word arrogance instead of ignorance. Because one thing is for sure, i am not lacking knowledge about this straferzon setup.

Thanks that helped. Maras was a typo of mine and I was meaning Atmas so thats good. I have one now and am building equip.

I could make the same reference to the knife in a back to your first post of our convo.

Ignorance was the correct word in that you were ignorant of my already reading the guide, multiple times and browsing through it, pming you as you well know, and also viewed the screenies. There was always the possibility of one bing biased towards their guide

You were also ignorant of Veilside's comments about doubting the power of the bow in the CS due to the strength of the monsters and I just wanted some opinions on the matter, thats all, 'get of your high horse' springs to mind. Thanks for your help but I have no more questions for you.