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Aug 20 2010 12:48pm
chilli made a sig request in the df so i figured id make one with paint in this post

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46850782&f=115&o=10

he never paid me and is now using it

Quote (Chilli @ Aug 20 2010 03:45pm)
Quote (yodakon @ Aug 20 2010 02:42pm)
Quote (Chilli @ Aug 20 2010 03:41pm)
Quote (yodakon @ Aug 20 2010 02:40pm)
Quote (Chilli @ Aug 20 2010 03:39pm)
Quote (yodakon @ Aug 20 2010 02:36pm)
SEND ME MY FG

YOUR USING THE SIG I MADE, DONT MAKE ME POST S/A


Lol'd
I think its amazing tho,
Btw pretty sure you said it was free in DF :D


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46850782&f=115&o=10

i said dont welch me!!!!!

IM MAD!

send me 10fg for my hard work using paint


Nou


reported then, im serious serious to


lmfao.
Reported for what?
I can get a Actually artist with photoshop to give me better sig for 10fg than that,
Report me all you want,
I aint giving you 10fg, Ill remove when mod tells me to.


since its paint theres no point in me posting the picture where i made it, since i could easily copy+paste
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Aug 20 2010 03:55pm
Quote (Epiphany @ 18 Aug 2010 19:13)
A user scammed me of FG on a signature purchase, this is not a RIP accusation, but I was told to post it here.

* A link or the exact d2jsp name of the person
http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=390258

* A link to the trade topic where the deal was made
There wasn't one made, he posted premade signatures and I PMed him about them, see further down for PM screenshots.

* Screenshots of PMs discussing the trade / meeting arrangements (Remember we need a screenshot ! We cannot read your PM box)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3623/scam1m.png - PM are no longer allowed from me --> him/her.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4624/scam2ht.png - PM
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4896/scam3s.png - PM
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3994/scam4.png - Gold Log

* A short summary/story of what happened
350 FG was lost in this scam.
I saw the user post some premades in a graphic request thread, and I really liked them. I sent the user a PM offering to purchase them, as you can see in the screenshots I haggled a little to get some nice prices.
I then asked him after I sent the FG to put my name on them and to make avatars and what not, and he said he didn't have the PSDs and that he would do it some other time or whatever the excuses were.
I asked him for my FG back until he completed the job and completely ignored me and now has my PMs blocked so there has been no contact as of 18 or so hours since then.

* Any other information you may find useful.

If I missed anything please post and let me know, thanks.


Forwarded

Quote (iRowe @ 19 Aug 2010 04:50)
I'm looking for some quick help.

I currently removed a user from my guild and he will not remove the GFX I bought for the guild. (Avatar + Banner)

Can I moderator please PM him and ask him to remove them?


http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=723529 <-- Users (NeRRd)

Thank you. :)


Forwarded, if you can post a PSD it would be great.

Quote (hoodoe @ 19 Aug 2010 12:04)
We had agreement of 25Fg with user named Nebuu.
I made him avatar and signature vs 25fg.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2310/nebuu.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9191/nebuuava.jpg
Just cropped the ava from sig (so same psd).

And psd:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5310/ripmaybeeh.png

prove of agreement:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3532/asdddt.png

Give him warn of something please. Thanks.


Seems to be solved.

Quote (yodakon @ 20 Aug 2010 11:48)
chilli made a sig request in the df so i figured id make one with paint in this post

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46850782&f=115&o=10

he never paid me and is now using it



since its paint theres no point in me posting the picture where i made it, since i could easily copy+paste


Can you take a screenshot of your PM from the accused and post it in here?
How to post pm screenshots

This post was edited by ook on Aug 20 2010 04:00pm
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Quote (ook @ 20 Aug 2010 17:55)
Forwarded



Forwarded, if you can post a PSD it would be great.



Seems to be solved.



Can you take a screenshot of your PM from the accused and post it in here?
How to post pm screenshots


I don't even know what a PSD is..


I bought the GFX for my guild. :(

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Quote (yodakon @ 20 Aug 2010 17:23)
http://i33.tinypic.com/10xhi5k.jpg


Can you take a screenshot of the bottom too?
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Quote (ook @ Aug 21 2010 06:58pm)
Can you take a screenshot of the bottom too?


no =/

i deleted the email because inbox got full and i posted the picture

my screan isnt big enough to take a picture of the whole message, but u can see the chill@jsp, thats at the beginning of his sig
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Thread: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46903981&f=111&o=0
- I made sig and posted on pages 4 / 5
- He never paid for the sig, he told me "OK, thank you for your attempt im still collecting them however so my guild can decide which is best." in a PM that i can send if needed.
- Today i see he is wearing the signature.

User: http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=604133

Image of him wearing signature: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3852/treasonist1.jpg
- Incase he removes at some point before this is looked at.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me... furthermore, I think the person should be locked until they pay what the said they would. It is worst than stealing an ingame item in my opinion.. this something we personally make and put time into.
The punishment for doing this should at LEAST be what the punishment for stealing an item would be.
- edit: look at post #473 on this page... that's the type of shit us artists deal with... its bullshit. There is no consequence just "i'll remove when mod tells me to"

This post was edited by Treasonist on Aug 21 2010 04:28pm
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Aug 21 2010 06:31pm
I understand that you guys are busy and stuff
But its been 68 days since I first posted this here, and many other disputes posted after me have been looked into
Im still trying to get this resolved
The first time it was looked into his profile was deleted to remove the artwork
He simply put it all back how it was and added this:


Quote (DanSeavy @ Jun 14 2010 09:57pm)
User Accused: QuartzScarf

Original Artwork: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/OriginalArtwork.jpg
Took a screen shot of the file saved on my computer with the date and time shown as I am not using this in my profile anymore.

Artwork in Question: http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg242/Quartz-Photo/Breakpoints.png

Story: User pms me, I see that he is using my breakpoint gfx that I made for myself along time ago. I ask him to take it down he refuses.

Screenshots:
User using the artwork: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/ArtworkinQuestion.jpg
Pm conversation: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/pmconversation.jpg
Ignore the whole channel babble and read where I asked him to remove it and then where he said he wouldnt


Proof that I am the original author to this artwork:
Original .xcf file from Gimp: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/xcforg1.jpg
One of the layers disabled with the text opened: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/xcforg2.jpg

The work is clearly mine and would appreciate if this user took it off of his profile and his photobucket account.


Quote (FishboneDj @ Feb 6 2010 02:19pm)
Resources offered over the internet, and thus, made public for everyone to use, have no labelled ownership. Thus, an accusation based over these pretenses, ie., a signature created from the basis of a public render or stock will recieve no action in this thread. However, a direct and identical copy would be considered a rip, provided it does not fall under the description below:

Made the said artwork for Opinion@d2jsp along time ago when he asked me to make him a profile.
This work does not have a labelled ownership, but you normally dont tag something made for a profile.
Said user is using an identical copy so it is considered a rip

Quote (FishboneDj @ Feb 6 2010 02:19pm)
If you sell a piece of artwork to someone, you cannot claim exclusivity over that piece of material. That said, the person is free to resell the material, if he or she desires. They cannot, of course, claim author of said content, but they can resell or modify it further.

Never finished making the profile for Opinion so I used it myself and let my other guild members use it.
Never sold it to anyone so I still have ownership of the artwork.

Quote (FishboneDj @ Feb 6 2010 02:19pm)
Any person caught deliberately ripping material from another user for the purpose of profit will be dealt with accordingly. It is up to the sole discretion of the site to determine the course of action taken.

He is not ripping it deliberately, as he does not know that I own the artwork
He should be notified that I do own it and that I do not want him to use it

Quote (FishboneDj @ Feb 6 2010 02:19pm)
To make your accusation valid, you will need to provide the following information in your post. Please keep it organized.

  • A link to the profile of the accused, or the exact d2jsp username.
  • A link to the original artwork.
  • A link, or screenshot, of the artwork in question. Remember that files can be taken down; this is important.(psd file or gimp or wich graphic program u used)
  • Any other information that may help solidify your accusation, such as PM's or interactions. Also a screenshot of a pm conversation also helps.
  • You may not need to provide your Gold Logs. In order to protect your privacy, it is recommended that you do not post them. If information in your Gold Log is needed, you will recieve a PM regarding.


Quoted all of this from the first post here, I am sure my accusation meets all the standards
Thanks for reading, Dan
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Quote (DanSeavy @ 22 Aug 2010 02:31)
I understand that you guys are busy and stuff
But its been 68 days since I first posted this here, and many other disputes posted after me have been looked into
Im still trying to get this resolved
The first time it was looked into his profile was deleted to remove the artwork
He simply put it all back how it was and added this:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/seavy08/Jsp/jhgfgds.png




Made the said artwork for Opinion@d2jsp along time ago when he asked me to make him a profile.
This work does not have a labelled ownership, but you normally dont tag something made for a profile.
Said user is using an identical copy so it is considered a rip


Never finished making the profile for Opinion so I used it myself and let my other guild members use it.
Never sold it to anyone so I still have ownership of the artwork.


He is not ripping it deliberately, as he does not know that I own the artwork
He should be notified that I do own it and that I do not want him to use it



Quoted all of this from the first post here, I am sure my accusation meets all the standards
Thanks for reading, Dan


forwarded this to tapsa for u
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