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Dec 26 2009 01:25am
Stats:
Height:5'10-5'11
Weight:210-220
Goals: Chest/Biceps/Triceps/Traps/Massive Fat burning && Getting healthy of course.

I Would like to get a basic and simple diet to burn massive fat, and possibly help cut.

I guess im already "Bulked"(haha) But now i need to cut it, and form some muscles :D

Any nutritional advice is appriceated.

I've recently started cardio work outs, but not any sort of diet.

I Weighed in at 213 today, Hoping to lose 50-60ish pounds. I'm not nessacarly looking to lose my "Weight" As much as my Body fat %.

I'm more intrested in burning fat, rather than gaining muscle, But if i could achive both, and still

Beable to succesfully have the speediest results would be amazing.

Any help is appreciated.

Also, Any Work outs that you could possibly provide would be awesome too(Cardio routine/Lifting etc),I'm pretty new to the entire workout thing,

And honestly if you gave me a planned work out schedual i would most likley follow it.

I've got a weight bench, Althought its extremly light weight. (105 Pounds max lol)

Thanks in advanced.


This post was edited by zr1corvette187 on Dec 26 2009 01:47am
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Dec 26 2009 05:18am
Quote (Boxa @ Dec 25 2009 08:48pm)
don't want to clutter the thread and this is my last post in relation to this so don't reply, unless it's to post your actual question, but now that you know he can't answer pms because it would flood his inbox, instead of asking him to post your question from your inbox via a post, why didn't you just post your question, it's like drawing a line between point a & b, you don't need to add other points to the equation.

no need to respond, this thread should not be spammed.

once again my apologies skc, happy holidays.


Thanks Boxa for explaining about my PM's - this is correct.


Quote (str8rippinn @ Dec 25 2009 10:55pm)
Heres what I think I typed.

5'11 soccer player, at 170ish. Looking to cut around 140-150. Suggestions?

I have orange triad, fish oil, and protein already. I know the basics of working out, but not the advanced shit.



You require a very simple cutting routine. Please refer to the last 10 pages of the thread for sample cutting help which includes diet and exercise plans for losing fat quickly. If you read all of the last 10 pages and need more specific help, post again. thanks

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Dec 26 2009 05:27am
Ok - because you both want cutting, here is my sample cutting plan for a 170 lb male.

The key to overall fat loss is the following:

- Burn more calories than you take in

- eliminate sugar and simple carbs from your diet

- reduce carbs overall, and increase protein

- eliminate fast foods and frozen foods

- eat every 2-3 hours

- drink water or diet soda only (or any sugar-free, calorie free beverage)

- drink alcohol as rarely as possible

- get at least 8 hours of sleep a night!!

- Take fat burning supplements like BSN Atrophex, GAT Jet Fuel, or Nutrex Lipo-6



Good overall foods -

Protein - Lean meats like Chicken, turkey, tuna, fish, eggs, lean beef.

Complex Carbs - Whole Grains(all of them, like whole grain breads/pasta/brown rice, etc), Vegetables, legumes.

GOOD fats - Olive Oil, Nuts, Peanut butter, fish, OMEGA 3-6-9 supplements, avocados, etc.


You are going to want to take in only 1,200 calories a day....no more and no less.

You are going to want to get about 60% from protein, 15% from carbs, and 25% from good fats. READ THE LABELS OF WHAT YOU ARE EATING and keep a FOOD JOURNAL so you can add everything up.

MAKE SURE YOU ARE EATING EVERY 2-3 HOURS (SMALL MEALS)

In addition, make sure you do at least ONE HOUR of exercise each day. Cardiovascular activity like running, jogging, swimming, playing a sport, using a cardio machine at the gym, or lifting weights WITHOUT taking breaks...are all acceptable. See the exercise guide for more info.



FOOD NOT TO EAT!
(DO NOT EAT THESE FOODS, OR IF YOU EAT THEM, DO IT VERY RARELY!)

Fast Food – Avoid Fast food at all costs. However if you go into a fast food restaurant and you’re hungry…try to make some healthy decisions. For example, instead of a burger with fries – get a grilled chicken sandwich or a grilled chicken salad without the fries....fries are a waste calories.

SODA – DO NOT DRINK REGULAR SODA AT ALL! Instead drink diet soda if you really like it…but if not, then stick to ice water!

Pizza – sorry, but this is one of the things you really have to watch out for. Avoid!

Candy, desserts, and Ice Cream – Just don’t eat it =) it’s loaded with sugar and no nutrition at all!

Frozen food – typically has way too much sodium and bad nutritional value!

Canned Foods and Soups (including ramen) – Also has way too much sodium and virtually no nutrition.

Dark Chocolate – you can eat 1-2 ounces of dark chocolate per day and actually see lower body fat as a result. But don’t overdo it! Too much and it can start adding weight.

EAT CLEAN!!! THAT MEANS AVOID PROCESSED FOODS, SALT/SODIUM, SUGAR, SAUCES, ETC. All spices are fine except for salt.

KEEP A FOOD JOURNAL!! WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING YOU EAT AND TALLY YOUR TOTAL CALORIES/FAT/PROTEIN/CARBS/SUGAR/SODIUM AT THE END OF EACH DAY TO MAINTAIN PROGRESS!



Sample meal plan (No carbs after your 2nd meal each day)


Meal 1 – 1 bowl of whole grain cereal (or oatmeal) w/ 2% skim milk + 2 whole eggs
Meal 2 – chicken/turkey/tuna w/ 1 cup brown rice
Meal 3 – chicken or lean beef or fish on top of a salad
Meal 4 – chicken, turkey, tuna/fish with steamed veggies
Meal 5 – lean beef/steak or fish + veggies.
Meal 6 – 1 cup cottage cheese or glass of milk + mixed nuts.

You will want about 70g carbs, 250g protein, and 75g fat per day which = about 2,000 calories (perfect for a 170 lb man on a cutting routine doing 1 hr of exercise per day - for every 10 extra lbs of body mass, add 100 calories per day in a 1g / carbs, 4g / protein, 1g / fats ratio)


for exercise, stick to 1.5 hours of intense physical activity each day - whether it be lifting weights/doing cardio, playing a sport, running/cycling, etc - you need to keep your heart rate in the target zone of about 135-140 BPM for a 15-30 yr old male in good health. Don't worry about HIIT or any complex activities for now, just stick to the basics to lose the basic fat you both are asking for.
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Dec 26 2009 08:52am
Hey Raynor,

Hope you had a good holiday, I'm trying to decide which fat burner to add to kick my results up a notch as I've been improving my body composition pretty well, but thinking about either giving mitotropin or something along those lines a shot. Do you think it's worth it or is there any product that you would recommend, possibly any oversights in my diet?

I'm 6'6 245.6

Current Diet:

Meal 1 - VPX Bar
Workout
Post Workout - 2 Scoops VPX Iso, 1 Granny Smith Apple
Meal 2 - VPX Bar
Meal 3 - .75lb Grilled Chicken w/ Baked Sweet Potato
Meal 4 - 3 Hardboiled Eggs w/ 2 Cups Frozen Blueberries, Blackberries, Raspberries
Meal 5 - 2 Cups 0% No Sodium Added Cottage Cheese

Split
Mon - Legs
Tues - Heavy Core
Wed - Chest & Tri
Thurs - Back & Bi
Fri - Heavy Core
Sat - Shoulders, Traps, Heavy Arms
Sun - Play football for a few hours (Rest Day)

I do HIIT Cardio daily.
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Dec 26 2009 09:13am
hey raynor,

so im 16 years old
5'10
140

and i ve just bought whey protein
i work out regularly but figured the whey protein would only help my muscle and strength gains
how many scoops should i be taking per day?
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Dec 26 2009 09:52am
Quote (Boxa @ Dec 26 2009 08:52am)
Hey Raynor,

Hope you had a good holiday, I'm trying to decide which fat burner to add to kick my results up a notch as I've been improving my body composition pretty well, but thinking about either giving mitotropin or something along those lines a shot.  Do you think it's worth it or is there any product that you would recommend, possibly any oversights in my diet?

I'm 6'6 245.6

Current Diet:

Meal 1 - VPX Bar
Workout
Post Workout - 2 Scoops VPX Iso, 1 Granny Smith Apple
Meal 2 - VPX Bar
Meal 3 - .75lb Grilled Chicken w/ Baked Sweet Potato
Meal 4 - 3 Hardboiled Eggs w/ 2 Cups Frozen Blueberries, Blackberries, Raspberries
Meal 5 - 2 Cups 0% No Sodium Added Cottage Cheese

Split
Mon - Legs
Tues - Heavy Core
Wed - Chest & Tri
Thurs - Back & Bi
Fri - Heavy Core
Sat - Shoulders, Traps, Heavy Arms
Sun - Play football for a few hours (Rest Day)

I do HIIT Cardio daily.


in before edit
please tell him how fail his diet is
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Dec 26 2009 11:16am
Thanks for your very long post, I'm currently in school as a high school student.

I can eat before school(7:40-8:00ish), during lunch is around 12:00, after school which is around 4:00 when I get home, then when I'm home I can eat whenever then.

I'm not sure when the right time to eat is, do you have like a food index of some sort that tells me all of the foods I can eat?

Edit: Also, does it matter which fat burner I decide to go with? How should I take the fat burner as well?

This post was edited by str8rippinn on Dec 26 2009 11:46am
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Dec 26 2009 11:20am
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in before edit
please tell him how fail his diet is


I would agree..
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Dec 26 2009 11:35am
Do you recommend taking GAT jet fuel before a workout, or in the morning and then workout later in the day?
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Dec 26 2009 02:13pm
Quote (Boxa @ Dec 26 2009 10:52am)
Hey Raynor,

Hope you had a good holiday, I'm trying to decide which fat burner to add to kick my results up a notch as I've been improving my body composition pretty well, but thinking about either giving mitotropin or something along those lines a shot.  Do you think it's worth it or is there any product that you would recommend, possibly any oversights in my diet?

I'm 6'6 245.6

Current Diet:

Meal 1 - VPX Bar
Workout
Post Workout - 2 Scoops VPX Iso, 1 Granny Smith Apple
Meal 2 - VPX Bar
Meal 3 - .75lb Grilled Chicken w/ Baked Sweet Potato
Meal 4 - 3 Hardboiled Eggs w/ 2 Cups Frozen Blueberries, Blackberries, Raspberries
Meal 5 - 2 Cups 0% No Sodium Added Cottage Cheese

Split
Mon - Legs
Tues - Heavy Core
Wed - Chest & Tri
Thurs - Back & Bi
Fri - Heavy Core
Sat - Shoulders, Traps, Heavy Arms
Sun - Play football for a few hours (Rest Day)

I do HIIT Cardio daily.



Here is the modified diet that you should follow.



Meal 1 - 3 eggs + 1 cup oatmeal + 1 apple/banana
Workout
Post Workout - 2 Scoops VPX Iso, 1 Granny Smith Apple
Meal 2 - 3/4 lb grilled chicken + sweet potato + salad
Meal 3 - VPX zero impact bar
Meal 4 - 1 can of tuna, mixed raw veggies
Meal 5 - turkey and cheese slices (lowest sodium available)
Meal 6 - 1 Cups 2% No Sodium Added Cottage Cheese + mixed nuts

Split
Mon - Legs
Tues - Chest/Abs/Bis
Wed - Back/Tris/Calves
Thurs - Heavy Core + Endurance Training
Fri - Shoulders, Traps, calves
Sat - Weakest Muscle Group Split (focus on groups that need additional attention here)
Sun - Play football for a few hours (Rest Day)


do cardio immediately after a workout.

as for fat burner...get GAT Jet Fuel. 3 pills in the morning on empty stomach and 3 pills mid day
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