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Sep 12 2011 04:36am
I guess both setups are reaching last (-34 ww bp)
correct or there is another hidden bp which is reachable with fanatism ?
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Sep 12 2011 04:37am
Quote (Ryba @ Sep 12 2011 12:36pm)
I guess both setups are reaching last (-34 ww bp)
correct or there is another hidden bp which is reachable with fanatism ?


[x] hidden bp

p.s. will work only if you hit the hidden frw bp as well. seems to be a bug that them dont work without each other
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Sep 12 2011 04:38am
hmm you might be onto something with this...
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Sep 12 2011 04:40am
nope, and WW speed is not affected by any off-weapon ias.
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Sep 12 2011 04:41am
Quote (smackme @ 12 Sep 2011 12:40)
nope, and WW speed is not affected by any off-weapon ias.


so I'll reach max ias bp with botd + grief ?
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Sep 12 2011 04:44am
like double weapon ww assa, a double weapon ww baba nn fana to reache max ias-ww

they use beast to increase ar
and to increase grief damage, thx to fana

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Sep 12 2011 04:46am
use grief 34+ ias, its enought
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Sep 12 2011 07:45am
Use a Grief War Spike so you can hit max ias even when slowed by arach or other source
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Sep 12 2011 08:55am
Quote (Tommyvv @ 12 Sep 2011 12:44)
like double weapon ww assa, a double weapon ww baba nn fana to reache max ias-ww

More precisely, Fanaticism does not increase whirl speed (hit check frequency) at all.


Quote (SABERSPAWN @ 12 Sep 2011 15:45)
Use a Grief War Spike so you can hit max ias even when slowed by arach or other source

Whirlwind hit check frequency is unaffected by any and all slowing effects.
Base weapon speed (WSM) and IAS on either weapon are the only factors to be considered.
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Sep 12 2011 09:57am
Quote (Eywa @ Sep 12 2011 04:55pm)
More precisely, Fanaticism does not increase whirl speed (hit check frequency) at all.



Whirlwind hit check frequency is unaffected by any and all slowing effects.
Base weapon speed (WSM) and IAS on either weapon are the only factors to be considered.


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