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Jun 19 2010 02:58pm
Guys i tried kicker in SP with godly perfect everything, and it was a complete massacre. Was the slowest build ive tried so far, slower than melee necros, thrower barbs, etc :tombstone: What the hell did i do wrong. Gear at the end ps.
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Jun 19 2010 03:12pm
conclusion: dont use kickers in cs
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Jun 19 2010 03:22pm
your getting owned because your not playing properly imo.

your pvm, your not utilizing ds much at Your not using cos to manage crowds and then simply charging into everything is a sure way to die. Super sloppy in the eyes of this hc player. I would not say that Brand is ideal either. Lacerator will give you the amp your looking for while you also maintain higher dr and max block.

Make this pvm sin and you'll be amazed at how good kick is.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=33542178&f=87

My build rivals any of the cookie cutters in kill speed while played effectively.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Jun 19 2010 03:23pm
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Jun 19 2010 04:16pm
Kickers aren't meant for solo mfing things like that

Yeah, kickers are good and all , I loved mine last patch, but chaos is just full of fail.
IM kills you instantly if you are strong, everything else rapes you if you aren't
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Jun 19 2010 04:19pm
Maybe you should stop trying to gear up how you think is best and actually do some research, other than gearing up massive items and ultimately deciding that, for instance, ww is faster than frenzy in PvM.
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Jun 19 2010 04:59pm
Quote (Traxis @ Jun 20 2010 10:16am)
Kickers aren't meant for solo mfing things like that

Yeah, kickers are good and all , I loved mine last patch, but chaos is just full of fail.
IM kills you instantly if you are strong, everything else rapes you if you aren't


Not anymore it doesn't... no such thing as IM cast by Knights.
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@ topic...
... did not watch the vid... sometimes it is not the BEST gear that makes the build successful... it is gamestyle and some knowledge of the areas in which you are trying.
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Jun 19 2010 05:00pm
Oh yes, 1.13 new thing, forgot. Still though, as Syn said, maybe your gear is just the typical best, with no real research, maybe you're missing res, life, defence, damage, something
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Jun 19 2010 05:15pm
Quote (yaf @ Jun 19 2010 08:58pm)
Guys i tried kicker in SP with godly perfect everything, and  it was a complete massacre. Was the slowest build ive tried so far, slower than melee necros, thrower barbs, etc :tombstone: What the hell did i do wrong. Gear at the end ps.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3IeUYN6w8
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AtAux0omYo


oh boy.. where to start.

first of all your build is far from godly, because lwpb just sucks for overall pvm, and Im sure the rest of your gear is full of bad equipment choices as well.
second of all.. you are playing the build wrong. do yourself a favor and build a zealot or a fury druid, because that seems to be more what you want to do in pvm. dtalon kicksins do not just kick.. you have to use multiple abilities constantly as a kicksin, death sentry and cloak of shadows mainly, but other skills as well, teleport to minion stack constantly and aim shadow+merc as well.

you are just playing the build wrong. as well as you are using what looks like a boss killer kicksin setup (lwpb and whatnot) which sucks for overall pvm. get yourself some crowd control from a stormlash or a rift. start using more abilities.
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Jun 19 2010 05:55pm
wtf

2k life only?

no claws?

no ds?
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Jun 19 2010 06:00pm
first thing i noticed was the lack of DS. That's the bread and butter of any PvM sin, IMO.
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