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Nov 27 2008 01:18pm
Intro:

Well cs-baba is a fun pvm-char, and it is the fastest cs-er. Yes it can be faster then a hammer.
There are 2 different kinds of builds, the one is safer, but less fast, the other is more dangerous, but extremly fast.

Gear:

Build 1: Grief/storm build. This is the 'safe' build, you will have 51 dr, max block and full resi with this.
With both builds were gonna get the 105 fcr bp, you can decide for yourself if you want the 86fhr bp or not. (I didn't use it)

- armor: enigma (mp, dusk, w/e)
- helmet: arreat(if you want 86 fhr bp use 7fhr jool with adds like dex and resist, if you don't want 86 fhr bp use smth like 40ed/15ias jool)
- amu: highlords (you need the ias, and the skill is usefull aswell ofc smile.gif )
- rings: raven 20dex, try getting as high ar as possible. And a 10 fc/dex/ar ring
- belt: arach
- gloves: laying of hands (the % extra dmg to demons owns, and the ias aswell ofc ^.^)
- boots: waterwalk 65 life
- weapon: grief pb (33+ ias is must!!)
- shield: storm 'ber' with this you have 50% dr bp
- switch: hoto/spirit 35 fcr. This is for tele and bo!

merc: a1 merc
- faith (give ar and ias bonus, you don't want anything else)
- eth upped guardian ummed
- kira's ummed

With your bo, she won't die.

inventory:
- 2x 12 fhr wc sks (if u want the fhr, with the 7fhr jool in arreat you'll have 86 fhr bp [with spirit switch ofc])
- 7x life wc sks, try getting as high as possible. (5x life if you use 2x fhr sks)
- 7x life ar scs would be best of, but if u can't afford, just get 20 life scs
- anni 20-xx-x
- torch 20-xx

This build is safe, u wil have ~1.4k zerk dmg, but you will be a bit slower.

Build 2: botd wp build
Gear is all the same, except for the grief/storm. Instead you will use botd wp.
You can kill most bosses with 3-4 hits, but u won't have 50% dr bp, no mb and no defence!
Ofc you won't die fast cause of howl (see tactic section), but if you're up against alot of monsters at seis, you will have to use some rejuvs.
Always remember, manaburn can rip you in a matter of seconds, if you have IM, you will use regular attack and well then your screwed.
With this build you will have ~23k zerk dmg.

Skills:
- increased stamina: 1 point
- increased speed: 1 point
- iron skin: 1 point
- natural resistance: 1 point
- leap: 1 point
- berserk: max
- howl: max
- shout: max
- battle orders: max
- battle command: 1 point
- rest into sword mastery or spear mastery (depending on build)
optional: you can also get 1 point into whirlwind and battle cry (the -defence warcry thingy), but i almost never use them both so imo they are wasted skills.

Stats:

str: enough for equipment
dex: enough for maxblock (if you use grief/storm), if you use botd you might want to add a little, for more ar, imo you have enough without adding dex (you'll have ~11k ar or more)
vita: rest here ofc
ener: don't put anything here

Tactics:

Here's a video. Please note: I made this in single player (my cd-keys are still banned), I used botd wp build, I only got perfect items on this one (perf botd, anni, torch, 7x 3/20/20 and 45 life sks) And I could've been a couple of seconds faster (I forgot to switch to tele @ infector, you will see I howl a couple of times to many there tongue.gif)



I might add another one later using the grief/storm build.

Take river wp and bo, tele to grand vizier first (the flying thingy) open both seals, howl a couple of times, tele onto the vizier, switch to grief/botd and use berserk on him.
Next go to the venom lords, open the seal that doesn't spawn the venom lords first, then the other seal. Same tactic, howl a couple of times, tele onto infector, switch to grief/botd and kill it. Last but not least, imo he is always the toughest to beat: Seis. Open the seal, howl and tele onto him. He can be a real pain in the ass, 99% of the time he will cast decrep curse (that's why u have faith merc, more ias) He will start running around often (with decrep this is a pain in the ass aswell). If you can't find him because there are too many monsters, use leap and try to find him as fast as possible. You can use leap on the other monsters aswell, can come in pretty handy sometimes.

And well what else can I say, practice makes perfect. The longer you play with this char, the better you will become, and the faster ofc ^.^
Beware of mana burn, cause with both builds, this is the ting that has most chance of killing you, and be carefull at seis, he will run toward other monsters, and if u come to close to them they will start hitting you again (even with howl). If you use the botd build, this can kill you aswell fast aswell.

Plz keep in mind that this is my first real guide, and it's the first version


/ubie
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Nov 27 2008 01:22pm
- switch: hoto/spirit 35 fcr. This is for tele and bo!

What about 2x Hoto's? huh.gif


Edit: Other than that, pretty sexy guide, and not too expansive. wink.gif

Good job.


Edit #2:
ahh, nevermind. 55 Fhr from Spirit, some block when teleing (if shield ofc), etc.


Quote (uberubie @ Thu, Nov 27 2008, 02:26pm)
well the spirit gives fhr, and a bit of block, and don't forget lot's of mana.

you don't rly need the 86 fhr imo (as you can see in vid i goes good without it) but it still helps a bit to escape the crowds smile.gif


Yea, I forgot about fhr, block, mana etc.. ;/
I haven't played D2 for months lulz

This post was edited by BronZe on Nov 27 2008 01:29pm
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Quote (BronZe @ Thu, Nov 27 2008, 09:22pm)
- switch: hoto/spirit 35 fcr. This is for tele and bo!

What about 2x Hoto's? huh.gif


Edit: Other than that, pretty sexy guide, and not too expansive. wink.gif

Good job.


well the spirit gives fhr, and a bit of block, and don't forget lot's of mana.

you don't rly need the 86 fhr imo (as you can see in vid i goes good without it) but it still helps a bit to escape the crowds smile.gif
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Nov 28 2008 02:06am
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Nov 28 2008 04:42am
What about that spell that makes you hurt yourself when hitting monsters?
Won't you instantly die if that spell hits you?
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Quote (misspowah @ Fri, Nov 28 2008, 12:42pm)
What about that spell that makes you hurt yourself when hitting monsters?
Won't you instantly die if that spell hits you?


you mean iron maiden.

not if you use berserk, then you will use magic dmg, and thus you won't get hit.

iron maiden only returns physical dmg
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Nov 28 2008 06:06am
I really liked the guide, had a lot of information.

maybe you should include some other information, for example from what level on you should do dia.

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Nov 28 2008 06:14am
Quote (DesignedForWar @ Fri, Nov 28 2008, 02:06pm)
I really liked the guide, had a lot of information.

maybe you should include some other information, for example from what level on you should do dia.


well it's a cs-baba witch means u do cs in baalruns. u get best exp from this from ~lvl 95, but i started doing cs in brs from lvl 89, cause i don't like leeching biggrin.gif keep in mind that u want the exp from diablo himself! but the baba himself doesnt kill dia fast, so you will need some help for fast killing biggrin.gif

thx for the comment smile.gif will keep in mind for next version

€: if u vote that u don't like the guide, plz let me know why smile.gif

This post was edited by uberubie on Nov 28 2008 06:20am
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Nov 28 2008 07:05am
nice guide, never tried the botd wp part, but i can vouch the rest is good for cs ^^ mine's banned aswell xD
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Nov 28 2008 07:08am
try to get a sticky for this guide, pm him:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=25002470&f=21
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