these calculations have been made 500 times already, grief setup is mainly better than a lw setup.. drop it

xDD

cuz 400 dmg

There's more than 1 way to kill the ubers. There's like hundreds. Unless you're doing run after run after run, you can use either setup and they'll die pretty quick. Grief is cheaper and a better all around weapon, and you don't need to get ias anywhere else when using a grief. Last wish has a lot of mods that you can get elsewhere, and is very expensive to build. Do what you want to, but if I were building from scratch I'd use grief cause you can use it on any melee character, unlike last wish.

U wanna tell me sth about DR? Its calculated in ALL sequences! I know - sometimes its hard for u to read posts of infidels completly - thats why i write it for u again in Bigger Letters.

LW: (the 0,9 is the factor for applied CBs, if applied its 0,9, if not its 1. Formula: (HP*CB)-Damage, Base damage before 20% DR is 2797,445

As explaination: 12,5% from base HP of Enemy is base "Damage" from CB. 20% DR = 12,5%/100 * 80 = 10%. The factor is 0,9 (100%-10% = 90% -> 90/100 = 0,9)! Thats whats standing there! Nothing else!!!

Sequence [34] + Sequence [55x2] = 144 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 35.12 Seconds
Sequence [33] + Sequence [51x2] = 135 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 32.92 Seconds

Well i also like this part. Combined with this:
and with your AWESOME setup you end up smiting them for another full minute trying to get that 1/8th hp

I hope u know, that 100% CB is always 100%. And the Damage of LW is always the same! It will take always the same time to hunt down the bosses - u don´t have the handicap of 25 or 15% missing CB like in Grief setup where u have the chance, that ur sequence goes faster - or slower. But i know - u are the MATH PROPHET - in ur calculation 100% < 100%



it's not venom, it's open wounds - 1st fail. and if u can't appreciate stopping approx
Should i really look for the topic where u wrote VENOM WORKS WITH SMITE? After this u made a thread "BEFORE U LEAVE US MACROS1102" trying to blame me with the argument that i don´t know that Venom works with smite. You were OWNED in this thread!!! Venom does not work with smite!!!

Need another example for u godness?



two posts later:



Then tell me - Why do u use HL then??? U dont need it - you are an expert!!! U also don´t need the IAS - u have always switched on fanatism! A completly useless item then! If u use it to reach last bp without fana - then make ur SUCKING calculation with 509% less damage vs. Meph! (TROLL!)



Well WOW - one true sentence in two posts!

Thats why i wrote:



Its nothing more then a worst case scenario, that can happen! The last wish sequence is always the same! Its the Grief setup, that can work better - or not!


How big is ur chance to get a perfect Grief (base of all calculations) with 1 HR??? Are u really that mathematically handicapped??? The lowest Grief CAN have lower average damage then crappiest LW! If u switch to salvation (-509% damage) - its round about 2k damage per hit (in worst case). (YY i know its 2xx% more damage then LW - math noob!)





This is a good CLOSING POST! TY

This post was edited by macros_1102 on Jul 25 2011 05:50am

there's no need for a perfect grief. a simple 340 grief beats lw by a long shot.

and your claim about lw being more safe is laughable. u can bo, fade proc, inv-res-stack, pre-lt with wand. what more protection you need? and i don't do any of those except pre-lt.

just stop trying. you're ridiculous with each passing post.

Think u forgot, whats the point of the discussion! NOONE says, that Grief doesn´t work, NOONE says that LW doesn´t work. U can prebuff lot of things. Thats not the question. The thing about the savety of LW is, that u DONT need to switch to inventory stuff. U can use ONE Gear to hunt down the 3 Bosses. No switches, no prebuff...The funny thing about your argument is: You show how USEFUL LW is. It offers u the stats from an additional treachery, an additional LifeTap Wand (incl. BoSwitch if u need). To reach LW´s safety u need two more Items! (they are cheap, but that doesn´t matter). 3 Items vs. 1 LW. And u wanna tell us its CRAP???

no, you're forgetting that i said anyone can kill the ubers, even with an iratha's set using paladin.
you're just trying to surpass lw as superior when in fact it's a shitty weapon, always has been, always will be.

see my thread, which is the 3rd time i'm suggesting already, or disappear already.

you're a newbie who relies too much on lw's "safety" to go through the ubers, when:

prebuffing a higher fade > waiting for a lower fade to procc = grief's safer that way
prebuffing lt with a wand > waiting for the lt to procc = grief's safer that way


like many here will tell you, all you need for ut is some cb, some dmg and life tap. you can even get away with -100 res. you hang your life and your neck on that claim thinking that it would make lw > grief, but numbers don't lie, unless they were made by a mathematically challenged raging troll like yourself.

LW > Grief for USmiter

Grief > LW for PVP

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Grief lacks CB and is thus retarded for USmiter's makes u wear shitty gear with no res or teleport letting meph 1 hit u and rape ur corpse only a moron uses grief for USmiter unless they got mad res charms and wants to swap 10 armors to buff like idiot making LW 20x faster.