Quote (Tails chao @ 29 Apr 2010 15:45)

15k def shamans>

Quote (MrHero @ 28 Apr 2010 17:37)

Firstly gonna go through inventory on the perfect bva setup:

20/20/10 anni
20/20 torch
451 psn sc no comments. I have a 175/20 for the lolz, but matter of preference
10-20 colddmg 20 life sc no need. you are not a bvb, you don't need t ochill your opponents. dual ravens do the job.
16 x 3/20/20
15 x 36/20 (ar/life) it is fun to let the player do the calculation himself, see how much steel or max/ar/vit he needs in order to hit 9k+ ar. I am sure he will appreciate it. You never know if he is able to get all perfect 36/20 in one go.
cube in inventory with bo items (6 bo helm, 2 x bk, 3 wc amu and arach kept in cube in inventory at all times for fast bo'ing, and because it circumvents most legit pvp rules as to being allowed precast items because it takes up inventory space). I am not sure if you are going to have any stash problems. Let me read on further. bva especially compared to bvc, bva has the most stash problems imo

gear:
Helms: Arreats 200/6 with 40/9 (ed/dex) jewel or rare 30% ed 9 dex 9 str -15 req jewel (this ought to be upped) + Coa 30/15/2 'ber+ber'. I do not think guillaumes or kira's is worth the inventory space. No comments about arreats. and Ur right about Kira, but gulli not worth the stash space?
Amu's: Mara 30@ + Highlords + Angelic amu + 3 wc amu. No comments about HL, angelics. However Rly Hate to say this, i really wanted to stamp a huge fail on this guide and decided not to read further once I read ur section about amulets. Maras for a barb? Gosh this is basics... Am I sure I am reading correctly this is true? someone claims he has been playing for long and mara is a good baba ammy? Are you making a Singer?
Armor: Enigma, style is your own chosing, high defence however is a big plus no comments
Main Weapons: Grief 15/3 ba 34+ ias 400 dmg + Beast 15 ed 3 ar 40 str etc. Widowmaker 200/5 um'ed in stash if you like the ranged option, personally I've never found it to be better than the alternative which will be explained. W/M? this is not needed. Useless versus good hammerdins anyway. I played both barbs and hammerdin, window maker is redundant
Switch Weapons: 2 x 40@ hoto 15 ed 3 ar scourges. (Will be explained). no comments. But I am perplex at ur suggestion about getting a pair of superior scrouges. I wonder why you suggest that? waste of money and resources. Do you plan properly ahead? Might as well use the extra money in more meaningful places or value-added place
Shield: Storm with 40 ed 9 dex or rare jewel like mentioned above except it should have attack rating instead of -15 req all bva should use eld. I made a many bvas before, go eld for the win.
Belts: Dungo 40/13/15 + TGV 200% ed + arach (as mentioned above). also a 24 fhr 10 ow str life res belt is gosu. no comments
Gloves: TO Gloves + Draculs. no comments
Rings: 2 x 250/20 raven, 2 x bk (as mentioned above for bo), 1 x dwarf, 1 x wisp, 1 x 10 fcr 110+ ar 20 str 15 dex 80+ mana. + 2 x angelic ringssorry to be direct, Another fail about barb fcr rings. Str and dex not needed. Priority is fcr/11x ar/70+mana/ 30+life. Basics. How long have you played barbs?
Boots: Gore's 200% + Gosu triresboots like you have already. no comments

Quote (Soka_Gakkai @ 29 Apr 2010 16:39)

You played west before? My comments. as bold above

Quote (TwinTurbo @ 30 Apr 2010 06:45)

from me wanting some bva help to this

i was looking for some help, not a flame war (but imo it was funny to read )

well now im going for this:

str=0
dex=so i get 75%block with MB setup
vita=pump it up
energy=0

20 mastery
20l eap
20 ww
20 bo
1 in pre-skills
1 natural resist
1 frw
rest into shout

inventory:

Anni 20 20
Torch 20 20
8x 45life wc skillers -  don't use wc gcs. What you need a mixture of 32020s, steels vit, 4x fhr scs with mods, 3-5 mana scs
Cube with 6+bo helm, arach, 2 x bk rings, 3+wc amu and deamon limb     -    You will have stash problems imo. Drop the pre-bo stuffs.
rest=3/20/20     -  see above

and need some 2x5fhr/5@ and 20/11 res scs (or would i be better off with 20/36'rs? )    -  what you need is just 8 or more 20/11lr scs in stash

MB setup:

Helm=Arreat soced with 40%ed+9dex jewel   -  it's good
Amu=High Lords     -  it's good
Armor=Enigma (still swaping over from my hammers eni atm ) but think im gonna go for dusk or any suggestions?    - no preference
Weapon=Botd     -  Don't use ebotdz. use only griefz
Shield=Storm Shield soced with eld     -    it's good
Rings=2x raven   -  it's good
Belt=Verdungo     -  you need arach. you need 40fcr for tvt
Boots=Shadow Dancer     -    gores are better
Gloves=Draculs/TO

Dr setup vs physical dmg

Helm=CoA ber ber
Amu=High Lords/angelic depending if its a lame ass exile user
Armor=Enigma
Weapon 1=Grief 34ias+xxx dmg
Weapon 2=Beast
Rings=Raven/angelic
Belt=Verdungo
Boots=Gore
Gloves=Draculs/TO

BvC setup

Helm=Coa/Gulli(mainly anything i dont need max block/dr this will be main helm) /Arreat depending on what it is (coa hybrid assa) Gulli if i dont need the res from arreat.
Amu=High Lords / and maybe get a 2+barb 17fcr+mana,life, res amu for pub duels to smack them all setup   -    use only HL. Nv ever use crafted on a ww barb
Armor=Enigma (still swaping over from my hammers eni atm ) but think im gonna go for dusk.  -    no preference
Weapon 1=Grief 34ias+xxx dmg
Weapon 2=Beast
Rings=Fcr rings high mana,life,res / ravens
Belt=Arach/Tg
Boots=Gore/Infernostride
Gloves=TO


whats your guys input on this?
something you whould change?
jewel question. what do i put in Gulli 40%ed+15max?    -    nope.ed max jewels are bug. 30max is fine, or others
and i hear if you had full str bug on barb it helps with synq alittle or is this just bull sh*t?    -  it's not bullsh*t
So Cta+3+wc Sword 2sox with fal. if this is just bull shit 2x cta on switch.

Quote (Tails chao @ 29 Apr 2010 13:48)

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/e shakkobra you obviously missed the "you can abuse mechanics to make smite always hit max dmg" thread if you think this guy has stolen ultima1's spot xD

Quote (darkkobra @ 30 Apr 2010 00:41)

link?