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Aug 13 2009 01:31am
legit dueling is over there:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=147
thats where you can throw your gauntlet down and challenge people, not strats & guides.

I've dueled plenty of people around here and they can already tell you about it
although some of them would be a bit easier without the allied bo/chant ;)
I sure liked it when Flame's was around; he was a much better dueler than me, with much better gear
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Aug 13 2009 01:33am
Quote (deathwinger @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 07:31am)
legit dueling is over there:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=147
thats where you can throw your gauntlet down and challenge people, not strats & guides.

I've dueled plenty of people around here and they can already tell you about it
although some of them would be a bit easier without the allied bo/chant ;)
I sure liked it when Flame's was around; he was a much better dueler than me, with much better gear


You're putting claim to a character, and insulting other people who are telling you you're wrong.
You can't talk crap, but then hide behind the old "Oh well this is the strat forum, no fights allowed here!" routine.

You're either gonna prove your char works or close your guide imo.
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Aug 13 2009 01:37am
Quote (XoDiaC @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 02:33am)
You're either gonna prove your char works or close your guide imo.


Get in line, turdhole.
You're not important enough to waste time on.

Half the people here have already dueled me, and I can't be arsed to log in for every impudent muppet who comes through
what exactly is the point of "Proving myself" if I have to do it every single time one of you idiots posts?

This post was edited by deathwinger on Aug 13 2009 01:37am
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Quote (deathwinger @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 07:37am)
Get in line, turdhole.
You're not important enough to waste time on.

Half the people here have already dueled me, and I can't be arsed to log in for every impudent muppet who comes through
what exactly is the point of "Proving myself" if I have to do it every single time one of you idiots posts?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Ocsjmt-rU&feature=related



Let me know when you're ready to stop yapping and ft5.

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Aug 13 2009 01:47am
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losing 3-4 skills is not worth 163% fcr imo

you played this char on hak realm where volcano does 6000 damage. On bnet, you really need to scrape up those skill points desperately. 99/99 with much more damage is better imo. Its not like a windy where you need to be able to chainlock/tele/nado as fast as possible, you only need to teleport + teleport to pull off your bearswipe, and the chainlocks come naturally :D


still it could be done. I've tried it but didnt really like it, but if its your style, fly with it. Just swap out pelt for circlet, maras for craft ammy, 1x soj for fcr.
Incompatible with with max block/dr build obviously


nah volcano doesnt do 6000 damage
it does ~same firedamage, double physical
my fissure is like 5k there too
it was easier to get a circ than roll a good pelt so I didnt bother with it, also 20fcr amus and rings and circs are fucking insane there

havent tried 99 yet, maybe it would be nice, but I see no reason to try it there since you dont lose much by going 163 there, bnet is probably a bit different


btw, @ sockets, why dont you use 2x shaels in helm? gets you almost to 99fhr without having to use any fhr sks

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Aug 13 2009 01:55am
correct, you lose 3-4 skills by going 163% fcr, from your pelt / 1x ring
now, you *could* use 2x shaels in helm, but if you're not doing a MB setup, you get 55% from spirit.

So it ends up like this:
55% spirit
10% helm (maybe)
20% boots
rest small charms

At best, you're looking at 3x 5/5 charms, which leaves 7x 20/5's
However, that requires either godly NL boots, or treks, which downs you some resists in the long run.
I suppose 1x shael in the helm might make the ideal setup a little easier, but 2x is really overkill. Maybe shael + facet? Or shael + resist jewels
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Quote (deathwinger @ Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:55)
correct, you lose 3-4 skills by going 163% fcr, from your pelt / 1x ring
now, you *could* use 2x shaels in helm, but if you're not doing a MB setup, you get 55% from spirit.

So it ends up like this:
55% spirit
10% helm (maybe)
20% boots
rest small charms

At best, you're looking at 3x 5/5 charms, which leaves 7x 20/5's
However, that requires either godly NL boots, or treks, which downs you some resists in the long run.
I suppose 1x shael in the helm might make the ideal setup a little easier, but 2x is really overkill. Maybe shael + facet? Or shael + resist jewels


well, relying to get a good pelt with the skills needed, 2 sock AND 10fhr just doesnt seem that realistic to me ~~
btw, its better to use 1 fhr sk than 3 fhr scs
45 life lost vs 60life lost ^^
if you use 2x shael in helm, you just need 1 sc and its all good, no need to get boots with fhr, no need to get helm with base fhr either

E: just realised you dont hit the breakpoint with 1 fhr sk, nevermind that part ^^
but well, if your sks have less than 40 life, then fhr sk will still be better

This post was edited by tudey on Aug 13 2009 01:59am
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Aug 13 2009 02:01am
Quote (deathwinger @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 03:31am)
legit dueling is over there:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=147
thats where you can throw your gauntlet down and challenge people, not strats & guides.

I've dueled plenty of people around here and they can already tell you about it
although some of them would be a bit easier without the allied bo/chant ;)
I sure liked it when Flame's was around; he was a much better dueler than me, with much better gear


First time around, I didn't have it.
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Aug 13 2009 02:04am
whoops oh yeah wasnt even thinking about that, yeah gc > 3x scs (at least for my budget char!, like you said!)
but with 2x shael in helm, you're assuming no FHR from boots. I mean, its safe to assume you're going to get either 10 or 20% fhr from your boots. I always used either rares (always self found -.-) or treks, and 10% fhr is a common helm mod.

2 sockets in the helm isn't that common anyway. Its likely most shamans would end up with a rare with 1x shael in it, so the points moot. But if I had that godly rare 5/5/5 with 2 o/s and 10% base fhr, I'd probably go 1x shael, 1x facet
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Aug 13 2009 02:05am
Quote (drt1245 @ Thu, Aug 13 2009, 03:01am)
First time around, I didn't have it.


first and last time honestly. Enchant doesn't make a big difference when you're going to keel me in 1 trap/ww lock, anyway
Some shamans just get a little overanxious about delivering the coup de grace to those 10% HP assassins and teleport into a whirlwind...... :'(

kekekeke

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