stupid stupid noobs.

LW is definitely better for an uber tristram pally.

1) 11% Chance to llvl 11 fade
2) 10% Chance to life tap
3) 60-70% CB
4) 17 might

Grief:

1) dmg (and it's not CB dmg so who cares.)

I really wish that you stupid noobs would stfu now.

This post was edited by Noob_Nova on Jul 31 2010 11:42am

1) Treachery has slvl 15 fade, and you can prebuff with it easily by standing in a fire / getting hit by archer/quill-rat mobs in frigid highlands
2) Drac's 5% ctc is enough to continuous proccing, and the first proccing should be done with an LT wand
3) A grief smiter can muster up to 75% CB with the rest of his equipment
3) Might does nothing compared to Grief's damage.



Drac's doesn't have CB.

This post was edited by Synonym on Jul 31 2010 11:45am

cb from drac's
fade from precast/sorb
cb from gore's
fana@pala>might from wep

1) I know about treachery. It's annoying to worry about it
2) 5% ctc is not enough. LT wand is annoying. 15% ctc LT is enough to not worry about it
3) 95% CB is ideal
4) Your actual smite dmg isn't what kills the ubers. its the CB dmg.



1) you should have 95% CB
2) ? just fade from weapon
3) CB from gores isn't 95%
4) ? using fanta with might...



u sure? i thought they have 10 CB

This post was edited by Noob_Nova on Jul 31 2010 11:48am

The treachery prebuff takes 5 seconds and the fade lasts long enough for the entire run.
5% ctc is more than enough. lt wand takes another 2 seconds.. 15% ctc is damageloss
75% CB is enough when CB loses its effect after 4-5 strikes.
Your actual damage is what kills the ubers, after CB loses its effect.

this.
Grief for ias
LW for Killin Monster fast as Fuck with more Dmg / Cb

Read the stats again instead of guessing.



Care to explain how LW does more damage than Grief?

LW give's might aura + has 70% Crushing Blow

/edit u quoted me wrong. i never said dracs have cb
noob_nova did

This post was edited by maxx_factor on Jul 31 2010 11:53am

1) I've had the treachery pre buff take up to 3 minutes
2) 5% ctc is not enough. The wand is hard to target, and the minions might own you if you don't have someone to hold them while you cast. 15% ctc is enough to jump in and just start smiting.
3) CB 95% is so all but 5% of your attacks do CB. It does not loss effect after 4-5, it is however diminishing. This is because CB works on monsters life percentage. Less life = less dmg
4) yes, and it takes about 5-10 seconds to kill them with some pretty shitty gear, at the point that you are talking about.

wrong

grief>in pvm and pvp