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Feb 11 2012 04:46pm
in gvg is it better to use 40ias/272ed/265ar/fools/eth zod warfist or

+3light / + 3 venom / + 3 mindblast suwayah fury ?

pros and cons are

with fury i get alot more deadly strike and open wounds and i get to use light sentry + wof in duels
also more mindblast damage and venom damage but i get 5600 ar which i think is enough to hit other sins
once their cloak'd

35 deadly strike from highlord
15 from gface
33 deadly strike from fury
= 88 deadly strike

and 25 openwounds from chaos
10 from belt
66 from fury
= 101 % open wounds

2620-3030 fury dmg
3110-3890 chaos dmg


with warfist fools i get

50 deadly strike from highlord+gface
35openwounds from belt+chaos
16k ar
3300 - 3940
3108 - 3845

which setup is better ??
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Feb 11 2012 05:00pm
just use irathas collar, death gloves and treks and be done with it.
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Feb 11 2012 05:02pm
Quote (gato26 @ Feb 11 2012 03:46pm)
in gvg is it better to use 40ias/272ed/265ar/fools/eth zod warfist or

+3light / + 3 venom / + 3 mindblast suwayah fury ?

pros and cons are

with fury i get alot more deadly strike and open wounds and i get to use light sentry + wof in duels
also more mindblast damage and venom damage but i get 5600 ar which i think is enough to hit other sins
once their cloak'd

35 deadly strike from highlord
15 from gface
33 deadly strike from fury
= 88 deadly strike

and 25 openwounds from chaos
      10 from belt
      66 from fury
= 101 % open wounds

2620-3030 fury dmg
3110-3890 chaos dmg


with warfist fools i get

50 deadly strike from highlord+gface
35openwounds from belt+chaos
16k ar
3300 - 3940
3108 - 3845

which setup is better ??


GvG is pretty dumb but to answer your question, the war fist would be a better option.
Also one thing to note: DS and OW don't stack across claws. Each claw's mods are calculated separately. However, any other piece of gear that adds those mods will add to both claws.
In your case:

Your fury has: 88 DS and 76 OW.
Your chaos has: 50 DS and 35 OW.
Your war fist: 50 DS and 10 OW.
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Feb 11 2012 05:45pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Feb 12 2012 12:00am)
just use irathas collar, death gloves and treks and be done with it.


very nice but poison isnt the main source of damage anyway.

Also poison reduce is good, but with the frequency of ww, the venom is probably being reapplied ( i.e. the full 0.8 duration isn't coming into effect until the final hit ).

here's the GvG setup from Azn Masta's guide

42% FCR Setup (Power)
• Helm - 2Assassin/20FCR/Visionary/Life/Strength or Dexterity/2Socket Circlet
• Armor - Archon Plate Enigma
• Amulet - Highlord’s Wrath
• Boots - Gore Riders
• Ring 1- 10FCR/120Attack Rating/25 Strength/15 Dexterity/3Life leech/20 life Crafted Ring
• Ring 2- Raven Frost
• Gloves - Trangs-Oul Gloves
• Belt - 24% FHR/10% Open wounds/80 Life/3Life Leech/30 Strength/30% Poison Resistance Belt
• Claws - Glitched Chaos (Suwayyah) + 30+IAS Warfist Fools claw

One thing I can think of chaning is usin guilli + arach instead of ow belt, but im sure that setup works well :)
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Feb 11 2012 05:54pm
Go with the fools but you need to relearn several glaring mistakes before you get ahead of yourself.


Quote (Jeebus666 @ Feb 11 2012 06:45pm)
very nice but poison isnt the main source of damage anyway.

Also poison reduce is good, but with the frequency of ww, the venom is probably being reapplied ( i.e. the full 0.8 duration isn't coming into effect until the final hit ).

here's the GvG setup from Azn Masta's guide

42% FCR Setup (Power)
• Helm - 2Assassin/20FCR/Visionary/Life/Strength or Dexterity/2Socket Circlet
• Armor - Archon Plate Enigma
• Amulet - Highlord’s Wrath
• Boots - Gore Riders
• Ring 1- 10FCR/120Attack Rating/25 Strength/15 Dexterity/3Life leech/20 life Crafted Ring
• Ring 2- Raven Frost
• Gloves - Trangs-Oul Gloves
• Belt - 24% FHR/10% Open wounds/80 Life/3Life Leech/30 Strength/30% Poison Resistance Belt
• Claws - Glitched Chaos (Suwayyah) + 30+IAS Warfist Fools claw

One thing I can think of chaning is usin guilli + arach instead of ow belt, but im sure that setup works well :)


42% fcr + 24% fhr ? doesn't sound too effective to me X.x


This post was edited by Decarnate on Feb 11 2012 05:56pm
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Quote (Decarnate @ Feb 12 2012 12:54am)
Go with the fools but you need to relearn several glaring mistakes before you get ahead of yourself.




42% fcr + 24% fhr ? doesn't sound too effective to me X.x


well it just needs an fhr sc for 27 fhr :P

cant comment as to whether 42 fcr is sufficient or not, as I dont really play GvG
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Feb 11 2012 06:05pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Feb 11 2012 08:04pm)
well it just needs an fhr sc for 27 fhr :P

cant comment as to whether 42 fcr is sufficient or not, as I dont really play GvG


i use 86 fhr for gvg setup
and ofc 42 is enough for gvg :p *
and meds can close this topic im str8
ima beast after all :)

This post was edited by gato26 on Feb 11 2012 06:07pm
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Feb 11 2012 06:29pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Feb 11 2012 11:45pm)
very nice but poison isnt the main source of damage anyway.

Also poison reduce is good, but with the frequency of ww, the venom is probably being reapplied ( i.e. the full 0.8 duration isn't coming into effect until the final hit ).

here's the GvG setup from Azn Masta's guide

42% FCR Setup (Power)
• Helm - 2Assassin/20FCR/Visionary/Life/Strength or Dexterity/2Socket Circlet
• Armor - Archon Plate Enigma
• Amulet - Highlord’s Wrath
• Boots - Gore Riders
• Ring 1- 10FCR/120Attack Rating/25 Strength/15 Dexterity/3Life leech/20 life Crafted Ring
• Ring 2- Raven Frost
• Gloves - Trangs-Oul Gloves
• Belt - 24% FHR/10% Open wounds/80 Life/3Life Leech/30 Strength/30% Poison Resistance Belt
• Claws - Glitched Chaos (Suwayyah) + 30+IAS Warfist Fools claw

One thing I can think of chaning is usin guilli + arach instead of ow belt, but im sure that setup works well :)



GvG is actually pretty fun despite Bryant's reply

This post was edited by RicktheLegend on Feb 11 2012 06:29pm
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Feb 11 2012 07:07pm
Quote (gato26 @ 12 Feb 2012 01:05)
i use 86 fhr for gvg setup
and ofc 42 is enough for gvg :p *
and meds can close this topic im str8
ima beast after all :)


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Quote (Decarnate @ Feb 11 2012 07:54pm)
Go with the fools but you need to relearn several glaring mistakes before you get ahead of yourself.




42% fcr + 24% fhr ? doesn't sound too effective to me X.x


Respec back to Vis setup and duel me and rick and zoj again
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