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May 5 2014 02:54pm
Quote (jova1316 @ May 5 2014 04:49pm)
For monk SoH is BIS, followed by TF for trash or WKL/Odyn for bosses



WKL + sunkeeper is the best dps
WKL + shard is the best AoE

TF is a good temp
odyns is a pile of shit next to every other "super" weapon
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May 5 2014 06:55pm
Quote (bouzigue @ 6 May 2014 02:31)
what spell do you use?

Spell with high proc coeff : example Frenzy Smite, Weapon Throw for barb

SoH > Odyn > TF

Spell with low coeff : example Whirlwind, Seismic Slam

Odyn > TF > SoH


With high proc coeff spells, SoH is the strongest weapon in the whole game. Spamming Frenzy (lightning rune) vs Ghom, you will kill him faster than spamming Hota (also lightning), even with superstition and the huge fury regen.


How do u determine whether the spell is high proc coeff or low one? I'm a lightning whirlwind barb.
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May 5 2014 07:04pm
Quote (Sonicgundam @ May 5 2014 08:20pm)
if dual wielding, Odyn + TF as both procs gain from +% to lightning skill damage at the moment. SoH doesn't.


actually TF proc doesn't benefit from +% lightning dmg bonus. SoH does. I have all three weapons on a lightning monk.

This post was edited by Maldul on May 5 2014 07:04pm
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May 5 2014 07:15pm
Quote (Maldul @ May 5 2014 06:04pm)
actually TF proc doesn't benefit from +% lightning dmg bonus. SoH does. I have all three weapons on a lightning monk.


What was your testing method. Just curious.
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May 5 2014 09:29pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ May 6 2014 03:15am)
What was your testing method. Just curious.


took very similar items with no lightning dmg but rest of the stats are the same. TF hits the same. SoH hits weaker.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/23aiyu/which_legendary_procs_are_affected_by_elemental/

also, as someone else explained it to me before I even got my SoH. SoH triggers use of a skill Charged Bolt. that's why that skill gets the bonus. same as Odyn Chain Lightning. Thunderfury only procs lightning damage for exact number it says on the weapon.

"Chance on hit to blast your enemy with Lightning, dealing 279–372% weapon damage as Lightning and then jumping to additional nearby enemies."

Basically, it's just lightning damage that jumps to more enemies than the first one it hit. Yeah, they could have done it on purpose, but it might be just that they didn't think it would suck so much compared to SoH. the only thin it's better for is clearing trash when doing bounties (IMO)

BTW, the info on the page I linked has Odyn listed as one that doesn't scale, but it actually does. Few people reported that in comments.

This post was edited by Maldul on May 5 2014 09:30pm
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May 5 2014 11:01pm
Quote (infallibleleo @ May 6 2014 01:55am)
How do u determine whether the spell is high proc coeff or low one? I'm a lightning whirlwind barb.


you have the list here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AgL5S3Revw9ddEhScEpSLWhnRDZKV25OaWZJcHdkN0E&toomany=true

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May 6 2014 05:03am
Quote (bouzigue @ 6 May 2014 02:31)
what spell do you use?

Spell with high proc coeff : example Frenzy Smite, Weapon Throw for barb

SoH > Odyn > TF

Spell with low coeff : example Whirlwind, Seismic Slam

Odyn > TF > SoH


With high proc coeff spells, SoH is the strongest weapon in the whole game. Spamming Frenzy (lightning rune) vs Ghom, you will kill him faster than spamming Hota (also lightning), even with superstition and the huge fury regen.


Mind explaining why odyn is good for skill with low proc?
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May 6 2014 05:51am
Odyn is good for every lightning spec because:

- It's a mace, so it's a "slow" weapon (1.2 speed). It means higher damage on spells/procs (scaling with weapon damage), and better ratio damage/ressource spent. Better placed in Main Hand.

- Odyn's proc is good. It's chain lightning doing 400% weapon damage and can bounce back x 3 on the same target if no others are present = 1200% weapon damage single target.

- Up to 20%lightning damage with the affix. Always good to have.

For a ww lightning barb best weapons are Odyn + TF.

This post was edited by bouzigue on May 6 2014 05:53am
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May 6 2014 06:27am
Quote (bouzigue @ May 6 2014 07:51am)
Odyn is good for every lightning spec because:

- It's a mace, so it's a "slow" weapon (1.2 speed). It means higher damage on spells/procs (scaling with weapon damage), and better ratio damage/ressource spent. Better placed in Main Hand.

- Odyn's proc is good. It's chain lightning doing 400% weapon damage and can bounce back x 3 on the same target if no others are present = 1200% weapon damage single target.

- Up to 20%lightning damage with the affix. Always good to have.

For a ww lightning barb best weapons are Odyn + TF.


It's terrible on light monks
It's a spirit starver and it's shit for loh and life on spirit spent
Definitely not worth the proc
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May 6 2014 06:39am
yeah sorry i was talking about barb here
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