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Jul 17 2014 03:57pm
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We’ve been discussing 2-Hander buffs for a while now. Right now on live, 2-Handers are almost always less powerful than dual-wielding 1-Handers for a few different reasons, and we wanted to rebalance them for Patch 2.1. We had two options to address the issue:

1) Make new 2-Hander passives and buff existing 2-Hander passives for Barbarian, Monk, Witch Doctor, and Wizard.

2) Buff all 2-Handed weapons baseline and adjust Heavenly Strength accordingly.

After trying both options out internally, we decided to go with option 2. This solution has two desirable benefits: 1) it’s immediately noticeable to all players when they pick up a 2-Hander and see the DPS number both significantly higher than a 1-Hander and higher than pre-Patch 2.1 2-Handers and 2) changing 1 passive is less of a jarring overall change for players than changing/adding 4 passives.

In the upcoming PTR patch, you should see the DPS of 2-Handed Melee Weapons increased by 23-26% across the board. The goal is to get the raw DPS of a 2H build to be close enough to the raw DPS of a Dual-Wield build that the weapon choice is mostly determined by the legendary powers on the item and by the build you are using. Some of the tradeoffs of 2-Handers vs. Dual-Wielding are that 2-Handers are intended to make more efficient use of resources and hit harder for skills with cooldowns while Dual-Wielding is intended to generate more procs, Life on Hit, and give more of certain stats. Currently, the raw DPS gap is large enough that Dual-Wielding feels like it is always the right answer.

To summarize the changes:
The DPS of 2-Handed Melee Weapons has been increased by 23-26% across the board.
This applies to the following weapon types:
2-Handed Maces
2-Handed Mighty Weapons
2-Handed Axes
2-Handed Flails
2-Handed Staffs
2-Handed Swords
Daibos
Polearms
In direct response, Heavenly Strength will now reduce damage done by 20%. With both changes, Crusaders using a 2-Hander should see a very small DPS increase.
This change is retroactive to existing live items.
This change only affects level 70 two-handed melee weapons.
This change affects two-handed melee weapons of all rarities.

We are still considering additional changes if needed but this should be a solid step towards making 2-Handers viable again for all classes.


Good.
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Jul 17 2014 03:59pm
Good, I'm sick of my 1h having higher dps than 2h
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Jul 17 2014 06:31pm
Most of the 2800 dps weapons will become +3500 dps. :D
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Jul 17 2014 06:35pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Jul 17 2014 04:31pm)
Most of the 2800 dps weapons will become +3500 dps. :D


Will this quick fix existing items?
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Jul 17 2014 06:43pm
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Will this quick fix existing items?


Yep.

All the buff will be retroactive.
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Jul 17 2014 07:26pm
surprised they didn't just add a passive to all classes that lets you use a 2 hand weapon with 1 hand.
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Jul 17 2014 07:29pm
no crossbow??
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Jul 17 2014 07:45pm
Kinda excited going to actually make a crusader now. Actually found a leg wep with almost max dps and 10% dmg bonus socket/str maybe its a sign ^_^
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Jul 17 2014 07:55pm
Quote (joemamaslayer @ Jul 17 2014 09:26pm)
surprised they didn't just add a passive to all classes that lets you use a 2 hand weapon with 1 hand.


Don't be ridiculous. That would make too many people want to use that passive. We all know Blizzard's focus when absolutely destroying classes that were viable Pre-RoS was to ensure that people use BUILD DIVERSITY!

Just look at all the different specs people are running!

WD has 2, DH has 1, Crusader has 2, Wiz has 2 (1 unless you find the rarest of rare items with regard to rareness), Barb has 1, Monk HAD 1... now has 2.

Build diversity! Now, go out there and find those generic gear sets people!
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Jul 17 2014 07:58pm
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Jul 17 2014 05:55pm)
Don't be ridiculous. That would make too many people want to use that passive. We all know Blizzard's focus when absolutely destroying classes that were viable Pre-RoS was to ensure that people use BUILD DIVERSITY!

Just look at all the different specs people are running!

WD has 2, DH has 1, Crusader has 2, Wiz has 2 (1 unless you find the rarest of rare items with regard to rareness), Barb has 1, Monk HAD 1... now has 2.

Build diversity! Now, go out there and find those generic gear sets people!


thats for endgame. I run my own funky build atm and i can do t3 fine.
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