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Jul 15 2013 11:48pm
What's up.

I've been receiving criticism off my routine. I've been told that I should modify a few things to achieve maximal potential, such as lower the volume in pull days, not to work hypertrophy and strength in alternate in the same split, and more. My goal is to gain muscle and strength, as most people working out in a gym.:p
Here is my current routine. I was wondering what H&F would think of it. I know there are a lot of people trolling in this sub-forum, but maybe I will also receive constructive opinions, so let's see!

Monday: Push 1
Tuesday: Pull 1
Wednesday: Off
Thurdsay: Push 2
Friday: Pull 2
Weekend: Legs

For every exercise, I perform 4 sets excluding the warm-up.

Push 1
BB Flat Bench 185x5
BB Inclined Bench 135x6
BB Shoulder (Smith machine) 45 each side x8
Lateral DB Raises 20x10 with a dropset 10x10
Pec Deck 145x8
Pull Downs (V Bar) 120x10
Close Grip Bench 115x10

Pull 1 (hypertrophy)
Pull downs (wide grip) 120x8
T-Bar Rows 4 plaques de 25x8
Seated Low Row (LF Cable) 120x8
DB Rows 60x10
DB Shrugs 80x12
Rear Pec Deck
BB Curls 60x10
Abs

Push 2 (alternating strength (5 reps)/hypertrophy (8-10 reps) on week1/week2:
DB Inclined 70x5
DB Flat 80x5
DB Press (Shoulders) 60x5
DB Inclined Flys 25x8
Diamond Push-ups (15 lbs sur le dos) 10x
Rope tricep exercise 80x8
Skull Crushers 55x8

Pull 2 (Strength)
Deadlift*
Pull downs (V bar) 150x5
BB Bent over rows 155x5
Lat Row Machine Pulls One Arm 115x5 (2x 45 and 1x 25)
DB Rows 80x5
BB Curls 75x5
Abs

Legs
Squat ATG 225x5
Leg Press 6 platesx10
Walking Lunges 20 steps with 65 lbs DBs
Leg curl
Calves

*Deadlift: I am now following this program for the deadlift, 1 RM being 335: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=52336861&f=60

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Thanks for looking :banana:
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Jul 15 2013 11:53pm
Would be better for us to assess this if you included the amount of sets you're doing for each exercise and roughly the % of your 1RM you're implying and on what sets you're going to failure on.

From what you've posted

you seem to be hitting your upper body twice a week and legs only once
you're squatting the day after deadlifts

heavy deadlifts should be earlier in the week anyway if you were to follow it with a hypertrophy day. Also remember that there's nothin wrong with 8, 9, or 10 day rotations. Not every routine needs to be squeezed in a week.
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Jul 16 2013 12:00am
tbh i think it's too much. i think 3-4 days are enough but i guess it depends on how heavy u lift. i go 3 days a week and rarely stay longer than 45 minutes there. if i were u i'd just do startingstrength or stronglifts til u get stronger

This post was edited by Fusa on Jul 16 2013 12:07am
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Jul 16 2013 12:15am
Quote (HyphyIll @ 16 Jul 2013 01:53)
Would be better for us to assess this if you included the amount of sets you're doing for each exercise and roughly the % of your 1RM you're implying and on what sets you're going to failure on.

From what you've posted

you seem to be hitting your upper body twice a week and legs only once
you're squatting the day after deadlifts

heavy deadlifts should be earlier in the week anyway if you were to follow it with a hypertrophy day.  Also remember that there's nothin wrong with 8, 9, or 10 day rotations.  Not every routine needs to be squeezed in a week.


For every exercise, I perform 4 sets excluding the warm-up.

I never go to failure actually, I think it would burn my CNS a little too much. :P Thanks for the advice on the deadlift and the day rotations!! I would have to put PULL 1 in the beginning so it stays away from my squat or something
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Jul 16 2013 01:22am
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Jul 16 2013 01:52am
Judging by your leg pic, have 2 leg days and up the sets on both.
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Jul 16 2013 01:56am
Quote (Lightman @ 16 Jul 2013 03:52)
Judging by your leg pic, have 2 leg days and up the sets on both.


Well for the moment I still get good gains with one day a week, and I couldn't go to the gym 6 times a week tbh. After a leg day I'm sore for 3-4 days:P
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Jul 16 2013 05:46am
Quote (Jam @ Jul 16 2013 07:56am)
Well for the moment I still get good gains with one day a week, and I couldn't go to the gym 6 times a week tbh. After a leg day I'm sore for 3-4 days:P


Trust me, you're nor THAT sore. I've fit my leg day twice in a week and it has twice the volume of yours. Drop a push or a pull day.
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Jul 16 2013 07:33am
I think it can work well, if you don't mind your legs falling a little behind. That Bering said, I think you could deadlift on both pull days to give your posterior train a better stimulus and focus the leg day more on quad dominant movements.

I'd also up the reps a little for some hypertrophy exercises, like the pull downs, and I'd do lower rep on strength days; I'd go for triples or so.

Good overall, depending on your ambiguous goals. Knowing more would let us help more.
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