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Aug 19 2012 08:54pm
Quote (Lightman @ Aug 19 2012 09:40pm)
You do realize the point of maintaining load upon joints is the sole purpose of training whilst under deficits? And assuring minimal load upon sarcoplasmic fibers will negate the nervous system propensity to muscular atrophy from lack of said resistance.
Tearing the muscle at maximal effort (Repetitions 12-15) would only enlarge the gap of catabolism by having to repair more muscle tissue without expendable macronutrients.

Not to mention myofibrillar cell strength growth is more than possible during deficits, whilst sarcoplasmic cross section width is impossible during them.

Please don't attempt to understand what occurs in the body during deficits, or at all. Go rip off other clueless potential clients instead, your time is wasted here.



Key word "Official".


So you need to burn as little calories as possible to maintain muscle mass/enerhy/strength?

Makes no sense to me :O.

This post was edited by GSXR on Aug 19 2012 08:55pm
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Aug 19 2012 09:09pm
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So you need to burn as little calories as possible to maintain muscle mass/enerhy/strength?

Makes no sense to me :O.


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You do realize the point of maintaining load upon joints is the sole purpose of training whilst under deficits?


I believe this is the key factor.
you need to maintain heaviest loads to preserve muscle mass most efficiently

calories should remain in the ~20% deficit area...
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Aug 19 2012 09:14pm
Quote (TheOak @ Aug 19 2012 10:35pm)
Lightmans right bro...

hypertrophy specific training only, during a calorie deficit is a sure way to lose strength/muscle


Oak,
what would you suggest to someone in that situation? Have you personally experienced muscle loss/strength loss?
Do you not try to add weight each week to your workout for as long as possible?
Even if you progress in a rep range of 12-15 that is still a strength gain. Along with it being a safer rep range when you are in a deficit.
Quote (Lightman @ Aug 19 2012 10:40pm)
You do realize the point of maintaining load upon joints is the sole purpose of training whilst under deficits? And assuring minimal load upon sarcoplasmic fibers will negate the nervous system propensity to muscular atrophy from lack of said resistance.
Tearing the muscle at maximal effort (Repetitions 12-15) would only enlarge the gap of catabolism by having to repair more muscle tissue without expendable macronutrients.

Not to mention myofibrillar cell strength growth is more than possible during deficits, whilst sarcoplasmic cross section width is impossible during them.

Please don't attempt to understand what occurs in the body during deficits, or at all. Go rip off other clueless potential clients instead, your time is wasted here.



Key word "Official".


The point of weight training while you are in a deficit is to hold onto your muscle so it doesn't get pissed away.

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And assuring minimal load upon sarcoplasmic fibers will negate the nervous system propensity to muscular atrophy from lack of said resistance.

What specific load would you recommend for someone who doesn't want to lose muscle? Would you recommend the same load for two different people?

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whilst sarcoplasmic cross section width is impossible during them.

I'd like to see studies that show this. Have you personally experienced it being impossible?
Impossible to increase or decrease in width?

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Tearing the muscle at maximal effort (Repetitions 12-15) would only enlarge the gap of catabolism by having to repair more muscle tissue without expendable macronutrients.

So you are not worried about someones safety doing heavy reps during a deficit? What are your lifting numbers again?
Are you assuming someone would train all movements in a 12-15 rep range? What % of their personal best would they be using while doing the 12-15 reps? Do they hit failure or just stop when they get to 12-15?
How far into their deficit would a maximal effort (Repetitions 12-15) make their body catabolic?

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Aug 19 2012 09:37pm
I swear you fawking guys crack me up...

Obviously you prioritize towards strength training when cutting however to say that training hypertrophy will by default yield muscle loss and is useless would be the equivalency of saying that Lightman isn't a pretentious cocksucker.

The end all be all fact of that matter is simple, Lightman knows everything he does about training for reading other people's research and is a textbook parrot.

No 2 people are the same which is why you need to vary their programs, which is also why Raynor is a mongoloid.
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Quote (Boxa @ Aug 19 2012 11:37pm)
I swear you fawking guys crack me up...

Obviously you prioritize towards strength training when cutting however to say that training hypertrophy will by default yield muscle loss and is useless would be the equivalency of saying that Lightman isn't a pretentious cocksucker.

The end all be all fact of that matter is simple, Lightman knows everything he does about training for reading other people's research and is a textbook parrot.

No 2 people are the same which is why you need to vary their programs, which is also why Raynor is a mongoloid.


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Aug 19 2012 09:46pm
raynor always recommends drop sets during a cut, which he explains maintains mass while increasing volume. is that wrong, or is that another alternative to strength?
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Aug 19 2012 09:46pm
Quote (Boxa @ Aug 19 2012 10:37pm)
I swear you fawking guys crack me up...

Obviously you prioritize towards strength training when cutting however to say that training hypertrophy will by default yield muscle loss and is useless would be the equivalency of saying that Lightman isn't a pretentious cocksucker.

The end all be all fact of that matter is simple, Lightman knows everything he does about training from reading other people's research and is a textbook parrot.

No 2 people are the same which is why you need to vary their programs, which is also why Raynor is a mongoloid.


Not being able to edit posts is gay.

Anyhow just to expand on this further...

The odds that your body goes catabolic based on your training alone are as great as you are to be mauled by a polar bear.

Also pure strength training for someone the further they go into their deficit gets really dangerous.

There's a very good reason bodybuilders keep hypertrophy in their routines while on deficit and it's clearly not to look depleted and sustain muscle loss pre-contest.
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Aug 19 2012 09:48pm
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Aug 19 2012 09:53pm
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Aug 19 2012 09:58pm
Quote (Boxa @ Aug 19 2012 09:46pm)
Not being able to edit posts is gay.

Anyhow just to expand on this further...

The odds that your body goes catabolic based on your training alone are as great as you are to be mauled by a polar bear.

Also pure strength training for someone the further they go into their deficit gets really dangerous.

There's a very good reason bodybuilders keep hypertrophy in their routines while on deficit and it's clearly not to look depleted and sustain muscle loss pre-contest.


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