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Oct 17 2013 08:12pm
Quote (PureOwnage2 @ Oct 17 2013 10:08pm)
For hypertrophy efficiency, you want to hit 12-15 reps while training each muscle group 2x a week.  You don't want the volume to be too high if you decide to go this route though.  Google some push/pull/leg routines.

Also, eccentric movements are the key to hypertrophy.  Form > #s always in hypertrophy.  Your muscles don't know how much weight is on the bar.  Only your ego.  As long as you are pushing yourself at a moderate level, you should be able to put on some size while not having to worry so much about injuries and underdeveloped body parts due to poor form.


thanks. but still lost on wut u mean by the werd volume? u mean how heavy i lift?
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Quote (noob_whacker @ Oct 17 2013 07:01pm)
so for optimal muscle mass growth 12-15 only?




wut u mean high volume? n thought slow eccentrics are for str mostly? and how long is short rest? around 45-60 sec?


thanks both

also how often is best to hit each muscle group? every 3 or 4 days?


Volume as in total overall workload. IE, an emphasis on total amount of sets and repetitions with a lesser amount of intensity (percentage of 1RM).

Strength (power, speed, and explosiveness) training would be on the opposite end of the spectrum.

A loose example would be comparing two leg days. One starts off with 6-8 sets of 8-20 reps (volume, size) and the other starts with 2-4 sets of 3-8 reps (strength, power).

However, nothing is carved into stone, and beginner trainees should not train with insanely high amounts of volume.

Terms to familiarize yourself are,

Volume: total workload defined in a period of time, usually a single workout or a weeks worth.

Intensity: Percentage of 1RM

Frequency: Amount of attention any muscle is given within a specific period of time (a week, for example).

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thanks. but still lost on wut u mean by the werd volume? u mean how heavy i lift?


volume != intensity

assuming m=0.5 and s=4

a. 5x10x100lbs -> 50*([100/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 35.511 // per 1 unit = /50 = 0.71j
b. 5x3x200lbs --> 15*([200/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 21.306 // per 1 unit = /15 = 1.42j

V(a) > V(b) *volume
J(b) > J(a) *intensity
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Quote (Lightman @ Oct 17 2013 09:21pm)
volume != intensity

assuming m=0.5 and s=4

a. 5x10x100lbs -> 50*([100/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 35.511  // per 1 unit = /50 = 0.71j
b. 5x3x200lbs --> 15*([200/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 21.306 // per 1 unit = /15 = 1.42j

V(a) > V(b) *volume
J(b) > J(a)  *intensity


You really love to post shit hardly anybody understands eh
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Quote (ThomasPaine @ Oct 17 2013 10:23pm)
You really love to post shit hardly anybody understands eh


:huh: :o

Quote (Lightman @ Oct 17 2013 10:21pm)
volume != intensity

assuming m=0.5 and s=4

a. 5x10x100lbs -> 50*([100/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 35.511  // per 1 unit = /50 = 0.71j
b. 5x3x200lbs --> 15*([200/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 21.306 // per 1 unit = /15 = 1.42j

V(a) > V(b) *volume
J(b) > J(a)  *intensity

plz explain?

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Quote (noob_whacker @ Oct 18 2013 05:08am)
:huh:  :o


plz explain?


kinda self explanatory unless you're an imbecile.
output measured by joules, per rep higher via intense rep scheme, overall sets higher via less intense rep scheme
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Oct 17 2013 09:25pm
Quote (Lightman @ Oct 17 2013 11:16pm)
kinda self explanatory unless you're an imbecile.
output measured by joules, per rep higher via intense rep scheme, overall sets higher via less intense rep scheme


ty for trying i guess. :bonk:
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Oct 17 2013 09:49pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ Oct 17 2013 09:25pm)
ty for trying i guess. :bonk:


It is a VERY simple math equation showing you the comparison of volume and intensity....
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Oct 17 2013 09:59pm
Quote (IAm_Carnage @ Oct 17 2013 07:49pm)
It is a VERY simple math equation showing you the comparison of volume and intensity....


Srs though.. I'm pretty sure I learned this freshman year in high school science.
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Quote (Lightman @ Oct 17 2013 10:21pm)
volume != intensity

assuming m=0.5 and s=4

a. 5x10x100lbs -> 50*([100/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 35.511  // per 1 unit = /50 = 0.71j
b. 5x3x200lbs --> 15*([200/2.2*0.5^2]/4^2) = 21.306 // per 1 unit = /15 = 1.42j

V(a) > V(b) *volume
J(b) > J(a)  *intensity


dont understand bolded
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