KEEPINITHOOD’S GUIDE TO GRIEF’S MYSTERY HIDDEN DAMAGE TO A WW BARB
1.) TOPIC
2.) EXAMPLES OF THE MIN’S and MAX’S OF GRIEF
3.) SKILL POINTS %ED FOR WHIRLWIND AND MASTERY SKILL
4.) ADDITION OF CHARMS, STRENGTH POINTS, AND JEWELS
5.) THE TRUE POWER OF GRIEF (CALCULATION OF THE HIDDEN DAMAGE)
6.) CONCLUSION
1.) TOPIC
Hey guys. This is my first guide in jsp. This guide will focus on the additional hidden damage you get from a grief (phase blade, zerker, or colossus blade, etc.) when a barbarian is in ww. This guide focuses on the raw damage after the calculated enhanced damage (no critical strike, open wounds, crushing blow, loss in pvp penalty, damage reduction, or IAS). Before we get started on this intensive calculation, let’s look at the actual runeword stats itself:
Runeword Name: Grief
Allowed Items: 5 Socket
Swords/Axes
Runes: Eth + Tir + Lo + Mal + Ral
35% Chance To Cast Level 15 Venom On Striking
+30-40% Increased Attack Speed (varies)
Damage +340-400 (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+(1.875 per character level) 1.875-185.625% Damage To Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
-20-25% To Enemy Poison Resistance (varies)
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+10-15 Life After Each Kill (varies)
The main component of added damage to a barbarian’s ww is:
1 - %ed on ww
2 - %ed on master skill
3 - %ed on jewels, armor, etc
4 - +strength points (1 strength = 1%ed)
2.) EXAMPLE OF THE MIN’S and MAX’S OF GRIEF
So there is a varying range a weapon can do due to the enhanced damage on the weapon, and the +damage this runeword does. Let’s take a couple of examples.
First, let’s see the range of damage for a grief ettin axe.
The stats on an ettin axe are:
Name: Ettin Axe
One-Handed Damage: 33 to 66 (49.5 Avg)
Level: 52
Strength: 145
Dexterity: 45
Range: 2
Durability: 24
Sockets: 5
Speed: [10]
Asn, P - Fast
Ama, B, D, N, S, - Normal
We will first provide a calculation for a normal, non-superior ettin axe at +340 damage.
Min. damage = 33 + 340 = 377
Max. damage = 66 + 340 = 406
Average damage = [406 + 377] / 2 = 391.5
Now let’s try at +400 damage:
Min. damage = 33 + 400 = 433
Max. damage = 66 + 400 = 466
Average damage = [466 + 433] / 2 = 449.5
Next, let’s try a 15%ed ettin axe at +340 damage:
Min. damage = 33*1.15 + 340 = 377.95
Max. damage = 66*1.15 + 340 = 415.9
Average damage = 396.925
Now at 15ed with +400 damage:
Min. damage = 33*1.15 + 400 = 437.95
Max. damage = 66*1.15 + 400 = 475.9
Average damage = 456.925
You guys pretty much get the point on the mins and max that the weapon holds. Next section, I will provide a table list (from skills 1 – 40 only) of the %ed whirlwind and sword or axe mastery.
3.) SKILL POINTS %ED FOR WHIRLWIND AND MASTERY SKILL
Whirlwind levels________%enhanced damage_______________% to AR
1___________________-50______________________________0
2___________________-42______________________________5
3___________________-34______________________________10
4___________________-26______________________________15
5___________________-18______________________________20
6___________________-10______________________________25
7___________________-2_______________________________30
8___________________6________________________________35
9___________________14_______________________________40
10__________________22_______________________________45
11__________________30_______________________________50
12__________________38_______________________________55
13__________________46_______________________________60
14__________________54_______________________________65
15__________________62_______________________________70
16__________________70_______________________________75
17__________________78_______________________________80
18__________________86_______________________________85
19__________________94_______________________________90
20__________________102______________________________95
21__________________110______________________________100
22__________________118______________________________105
23__________________126______________________________110
24__________________134______________________________115
25__________________142______________________________120
26__________________150______________________________125
27__________________158______________________________130
28__________________166______________________________135
29__________________174______________________________140
30__________________182______________________________145
31__________________190______________________________150
32__________________198______________________________155
33__________________206______________________________160
34__________________214______________________________165
35__________________222______________________________170
36__________________230______________________________175
37__________________238______________________________180
38__________________246______________________________185
39__________________254______________________________190
40__________________262______________________________195
Mastery Level_____%enhanced damage____________% to AR______________%Critical Strike
1_______________28___________________________28___________________3
2_______________33___________________________36___________________6
3_______________38___________________________44___________________9
4_______________43___________________________52___________________11
5_______________48___________________________60___________________12
6_______________53___________________________68___________________13
7_______________58___________________________76___________________14
8_______________63___________________________84___________________15
9_______________68___________________________92___________________16
10______________73___________________________100__________________17
11______________78___________________________108__________________17
12______________83___________________________116__________________18
13______________88___________________________124__________________18
14______________93___________________________132__________________19
15______________98___________________________140__________________19
16______________103__________________________148__________________20
17______________108__________________________156__________________20
18______________113__________________________164__________________20
19______________118__________________________172__________________20
20______________123__________________________180__________________21
21______________128__________________________188__________________21
22______________133__________________________196__________________21
23______________138__________________________204__________________21
24______________143__________________________212__________________22
25______________148__________________________220__________________22
26______________153__________________________228__________________22
27______________158__________________________236__________________22
28______________163__________________________244__________________22
29______________168__________________________252__________________22
30______________173__________________________260__________________22
31______________178__________________________268__________________23
32______________183__________________________276__________________23
33______________188__________________________284__________________23
34______________193__________________________292__________________23
35______________198__________________________300__________________23
36______________203__________________________308__________________23
37______________208__________________________316__________________23
38______________213__________________________324__________________23
39______________218__________________________332__________________23
40______________223__________________________340__________________23
As you can see, there is a wide range of ed in both categories. If you happen to have a skill level higher than 40 for either of these, you can follow this easy calculation to determine your %ed
Whirlwind %ed calc:
Damage% = -50% + [(skill level – 1) x 8%]
Mastery %ed calc:
Damage% = 28% + [(skill level – 1) x 5%]
For example, say you have a level 45 ww and level 43 mastery. The %ed would yield for each:
Whirlwind %ed = -50% + [(45 – 1) x 8%] = 302%
Mastery %ed = 28% + [(43 – 1) x 5%] = 238%
4.) ADDITION OF CHARMS, STRENGTH POINTS, AND JEWELS
In most cases for a barb, he would add %enhanced damage or max damage jewels to his helm/shield. He will most likely sport around max/ar/lifer grand charms or small charms, mastery gc’s, combat gc’s, max/ar/strength (hopefully not the case!)
So let’s see what are the typical jewel’s/charms a barbarian would use:
Jewels:
Ruby jewel of Virility: 40% enhanced damage / +9 to strength (overall = 49% enhanced damage)
Ruby jewel of Daring: 40% enhanced damage / +9 to dexterity (overall = 40% enhanced damage)
Vermilion jewel of Carnage: +30 to maximum damage
Charms:
Sharp grand charm of vita: 10 to maximum damage / 4x – 76 to attack rating/ 36 – 45 to life
Steel grand charm of vita: 100 + to attack rating / 36 – 45 to life
Fine small charm of vita: 3 to maximum damage / 10 – 20 to attack rating / 16 – 20 to life
Steel small charm of vita: 30+ to attack rating / 16 – 20 to life
Gear with %enhanced damage or additional min to max damage:
Fortitude: +300% enhanced damage
Phoenix: +350 – 400% enhanced damage
Steelrends: +30 – 60% enhanced damage / +15 – 20 to strength (45%ed min / 80%ed max)
Wartravelers: adds 10-15 damage (10 to min / 15 to max)
There may be a variety of others out there, but for now, lets focus on these that are listed.
5.) THE TRUE POWER OF GRIEF (CALCULATION OF THE HIDDEN DAMAGE)
Now it’s time to get into the juicy part. The actual damage of grief! It may read on a normal barbarian’s screen that whirlwind damage is from 600 – 2400 (as an example), but this is what it is actually doing (This is before the pvp penalty reduction of damage).
Let’s use this set up as an example for a normal BvB barbarian:
Helm: Arreats (2barb skills / 2 to combat skills / with 40ed +9strength jewel)
Armor: Fortitude (300% enhanced damage)
Weapon: 15ed/ +400 damage grief berserker axe
Shield: Stormshield (with 30 to maximum damage)
Gloves: Steelrends (60% enhanced damage/ +20 to strength or 80% enhanced damage)
Hellfire torch: +3 to barbarian skill levels
Annilihus: +1 to all skill levels
Grand Charms: 9 x 10 to maximum damage/ XX to attack rating/ 40+ to life grand charms
Small charms: 10 x 3 to maximum damage/XX to attack rating/ 20 to life small charms
Total skill in Whirlwind: 20 max from skills + 4 from arreats + 3 from torch + 1 from anni + 1 from Battle Command
= Level 29 Whirlwind or 174% enhanced damage
Total skill in Mastery: 20 max from skills + 2 from arreats + 3 from torch + 1 from anni + 1 from Battle Command
= Level 27 Axe Mastery or 158% enhanced damage
Total points into strength: Let’s say 156 to get to stormshield + 30 from stormshield + 20 from Steelrends
= 206 to strength or 206% enhanced damage
Now let’s calculate the minimum and maximum damage of a 15%ed grief berserker axe:
Minimum damage:
Min damage = 1.15*27 + 400 = 431.05
Maximum damage:
Max damage = 1.15*71 + 400 = 481.65
Let us add the additional charms and jewels that give us maximum damage:
Max damage = 481.65 + 10 x 9 from grand charms + 3 x 10 from small charms + 30 from Jewel in SS
Max damage = 631.65
Now Calculate the %ed from all of your gear and skills:
%ed = 300ed from fortitude + 49ed from jewel in arreats + 80ed from steelrends + 174ed from ww +158ed from mastery + 206ed from total strength
%ed = 967% enhanced damage to grief
Note: In this next series of calculation, 100% enhanced damage will be added to the total amount of ed to compensate for the damage that is initially done.
Minimum overall Grief damage = 431.05 x (967% enhanced damage from gear and skill + 100% enhanced damage for the calculation modifier)
Minimum overall Grief damage = 4599.3035
Maximum overall Grief damage = 631.65 x (967% enhanced damage from gear and skill + 100% enhanced damage for the calculation modifier)
Maximum overall Grief damage = 6739.7055
Overall, you would get a range of 4599.3035 – 6739.7055 on this set-up. You wouldn’t see that on screen since it wouldn’t register the +340 – 400 damage on grief.
In summary, you can perform you calculation as so:
Min damage = grief min. damage wep + any + minimum damage gear/charms/jewels
Max damage = grief max. damage wep + any +maximum damage gear/charms/jewels
Enhanced damage = %ed from Whirlwind + %ed from Mastery + %ed on gear, jewels, etc.
Overall minimum damage = Grief min damage x (%enhanced damage + 100%ed modifier)
Overall maximum damage = Grief max damage x (%enhanced damage + 100%ed modifier)
6. CONCLUSION
So there you have it folks. This is the true damage of grief before any penalty were to take place (pvp penalty and damage reduction). Any feedback and constructive criticism is appreciated as always. Thank you very much for reading this guide. If I get positive feedback for this, I may also provide an extensive Attack Rating guide to a barbarian as well. Happy Reading all. Thank you again. =)