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Aug 15 2011 01:30pm
The Video Series details the basics on starting LS. This should serve useful for those who don't take the time to read the basics and I believe should be a sticky replacement to Nara's superb and highly outdate guide (2008) in Character Builds and Discussion


Feel free to leave comments here / youtube if you care to provide feedback. Also note that I ended up having to do this video twice as my first go around the video / audio were about 8 minutes off at the end of the 40min vid. Sorry to those who let me climb and record for 3 lvls as that video was redone :(


Thanks and enjoy!

Note: These can be found in my profile for future reference

This post was edited by Stok3d on Aug 15 2011 01:34pm
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Aug 15 2011 01:35pm
or you can pretty much just point and click like everyone else does

also... 50 minutes of video?? what person has the attention span to watch that much video of a game that requires no skill to play
I'm pretty sure its easier and faster to look through an indexed guide about the game rather than watching 50 minutes of video

This post was edited by cardoors32 on Aug 15 2011 01:41pm
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Aug 15 2011 01:44pm
I was also going to mention the duration is fairly long.
I guess you can possibly separate your videos into headings i.e. Learn how to skill, Learn how to climb, Definitions/Common Terms used?


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If a new player someone is going to invest a few hours,possibly days to do there first climb, spending 40 minutes to learn how to play, learn every aspect of the game, and potentially cut hours upon hours out of your climb, would and will be worth it.

People invest hundreds and hundreds of hours playing LS.  Spending 40 minutes to learn isn't long at all when you look at the big picture.  It's a perfect in-depth tutorial and learning session.  There is nothing wrong with the duration at all.

I would have loved having this one I started.  Instead of spending WEEKS learning the game, and having all these unanswered questions pent up while trying to learn, I could of learned it all in 40 minutes.



Nice guides Nick.  :thumbsup:


I still would say a separation of headings would be nice so that people can just watch the things they want to.
A lot of people don't skill and just climb.
or to be more specific, have it so its General Information, Actually Climbing, Around Town, Skills.
Those are possible video headings.

This post was edited by AuraBullet on Aug 15 2011 01:56pm
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Aug 15 2011 01:45pm
Ya no new person is going to want to watch all of these unless pure nerd with no life or without snacks
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Aug 15 2011 01:46pm
lol taking this videos took you longer then 1 climb :D

good job

This post was edited by Sex on Aug 15 2011 01:52pm
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Aug 15 2011 01:48pm
I would cut them down. They are really long and some of the things you say don't really need to be said.

Less is more sometimes.

Do you have a script/storyboard for this video?

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Aug 15 2011 01:50pm
unlike everyone else providing constructive criticism, my post was solely to be a dick - please don't get confused
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Aug 15 2011 01:54pm
If a new player someone is going to invest a few hours, possibly days to do there first climb, spending 40 minutes to learn how to play, learn every aspect of the game, and potentially cut hours upon hours out of your climb, would and will be worth it.

People invest hundreds and hundreds of hours playing LS. Spending 40 minutes to learn isn't long at all when you look at the big picture. It's a perfect in-depth tutorial and learning session. There is nothing wrong with the duration at all.

I would have loved having this one I started. Instead of spending WEEKS learning the game, and having all these unanswered questions pent up while trying to learn, I could of learned it all in 40 minutes.



Nice guides Nick. :thumbsup:
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Aug 15 2011 01:55pm
Yeah I agree with the rest, they are pretty long.

If you can cut them down some I think they will be more helpful.




Spend ~5min discussing the town layout and BRIEFLY go into what each thing is. No need to dive into great detail, just discuss what each area is and move on.

Spend another ~5min discussing how the leveling up process (aka Catacombs) are used. Again, you don't need a lot of detail, most people will want to use it as a rough guideline anyway and not watch a full feature film to learn how to play.

I feel they are the most important. Town and Catacombs, the real two main pieces of the game really. You could then expand on those first two, and maybe make another ~5min video on skilling, BRIEFLY explaining what each one does. This is what Transmuting is. This is what Glyphing will do. Here is where you Fish and Cook, and this is what they do. Simple.



I like where you are wanting to go with this, but it's just too long at the moment I think. The typical "new player" who has never seen the game before will lose their attention span before they really absorb much, and just go try to figure it out themselves. I think if you can keep each section short and sweet, 5min max, then you will really have better luck keeping your audience focused.







Quote (MrMoJoRising @ Aug 15 2011 03:54pm)
If a new player someone is going to invest a few hours,possibly days to do there first climb, spending 40 minutes to learn how to play, learn every aspect of the game, and potentially cut hours upon hours out of your climb, would and will be worth it.

People invest hundreds and hundreds of hours playing LS.  Spending 40 minutes to learn isn't long at all when you look at the big picture.  It's a perfect in-depth tutorial and learning session.  There is nothing wrong with the duration at all.

I would have loved having this one I started.  Instead of spending WEEKS learning the game, and having all these unanswered questions pent up while trying to learn, I could of learned it all in 40 minutes.



Nice guides Nick.  :thumbsup:


40 minutes is a huge time to ask anyone to sit and try to learn how to play a Flash game... sorry, but I really respectfully disagree with you. Maybe show this to a bunch of new players and then poll them and ask what they think, but from my point of view, it's way too much.


Quote (MrMoJoRising @ Aug 15 2011 03:59pm)
TBH, if someone is going to lose their attention watching a tutorial video, they will never make it to level 10 playing LS before losing their attention...

But, it is what it is.  You're allowed to disagree. :)


Very true. Those same people won't read the LS portal either, so what can we do.

I just know throwing a plethora of information at someone is not always the best way to teach them. Taking important focuses and briefly going over them and keeping things "short 'n sweet" is often an easier approach, both on the teacher and the tutor.



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Quote (jlhromeo @ Aug 15 2011 03:55pm)
Yeah I agree with the rest, they are pretty long.

If you can cut them down some I think they will be more helpful.




Spend ~5min discussing the town layout and BRIEFLY go into what each thing is. No need to dive into great detail, just discuss what each area is and move on.

Spend another ~5min discussing how the leveling up process (aka Catacombs) are used. Again, you don't need a lot of detail, most people will want to use it as a rough guideline anyway and not watch a full feature film to learn how to play.

I feel they are the most important. Town and Catacombs, the real two main pieces of the game really. You could then expand on those first two, and maybe make another ~5min video on skilling, BRIEFLY explaining what each one does. This is what Transmuting is. This is what Glyphing will do. Here is where you Fish and Cook, and this is what they do. Simple.



I like where you are wanting to go with this, but it's just too long at the moment I think. The typical "new player" who has never seen the game before will lose their attention span before they really absorb much, and just go try to figure it out themselves. I think if you can keep each section short and sweet, 5min max, then you will really have better luck keeping your audience focused.




40 minutes is a huge time to ask anyone to sit and try to learn how to play a Flash game... sorry, but I really respectfully disagree with you. Maybe show this to a bunch of new players and then poll them and ask what they think, but from my point of view, it's way too much.


TBH, if someone is going to lose their attention watching a tutorial video, they will never make it to level 10 playing LS before losing their attention...

But, it is what it is. You're allowed to disagree. :)
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