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Jun 21 2011 10:31pm
(1) - First of all, i acknowledge that according to d2jsp Ladder Slasher rules/policy, there are steps in place to avoid scamming completely, so no accusation of scamming in this game will officially be recognized on LS. Second, i acknowledge it was my decision to trust someone, and nothing can be done, and i'm well aware of this. Despite these facts, it is still possibly to deceive one, and steal from people, as we've seen countless times throughout the history of the game.

(2) - I also understand many people on this forum will be pleased to see i've been scammed, and that's fine and expected, there has and will always be immature people around here. If you're too lazy to read and comprehend the situation, you can spam else where.

(3) - Finally, i don't deny that it was my fault to trust Rafaels, and i won't deny that i'm cheap, an offer to save 600 fg was made, and in order to do so, i would have to trust a person i judged could be trusted, he comes from the top LS guild - The Trust, and for the most part, i respect the majority of the members of that guild, have seen Rafaels around for a long time, and i figured in a wage between integrity and pixels, integrity would win, and if not, it would be unfortunate, but life would go on.
I work for my fg, and 600 fg is a considerable amount, so of course i agreed to do that method.

- This trade was done in the same fashion as a Diablo 2 trade, where one person gives first and the other is trusted to deliver the item as agreed, opposed to diablo 2, this trade would've costed me 600 fg to use a 'mediated' method. Which i couldn't really afford.


-- This is to notify the community that Rafaels is a scammer, and there is no denying it. --


The story :


- Rafaels saw my ISO: 200++ ee XIV staff thread and PM'd me to offer on his 218 ee XIV staff, i offered 11, he stuck to 12, i said that would be a stretch for me but i'd try to get it, he than proposed that if i wanted to do 11.4k fg and send the fg up front, then we could xfer the staff over the market place for 1 fg. We would save 600 fg by using this method.

- Most importantly, one must understand that xfering over the mp is done rather easily and done correctly, is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to be sniped.

I'll explain for those that disagree:

-- Seller: Item is set up on the market screen for the price and mouse scrolling over 'sell' while at the same time, a message 'up' is pre-typed.
-- Buyer: Sets filter, has mouse hovering over 'search' -- ready to click the item and buy it in less than a second. ( No gold password)
-- Seller hits 'sell' and ENTER to send the 'up' message at the same time (hitting 'SELL' a fraction earlier)
-- Buyer: As soon as he sees the 'UP' message, he hits search and instantly buys the item.

This entire process takes less than one second.

- Rafaels claims he put it on the market and told me 'up' in the same second.
- When i hit up the MOMENT i saw 'up' it was not there.. ( NO I DID NOT GET 'SEARCH FLOOD' )
- I even reset the filter within 2 seconds and checked again - still wasn't there.

--> This means, Rafaels claims that with 40 people online PLAYING the game, there just happened to be one person on that searched for MY EXACT ITEM, and bought it in UNDER HALF A SECOND. An impossibility.

.. The only reasonable explanation is that Rafaels told a friend to come on and buy it, put it up seconds before he told me 'up' , got his friend to buy it, put it in vault, and deny that it was him, and said it was MY fault that it MAGICALLY got sniped in less than 1/2 a second.

What an absurd notion.

I've been scammed. Yes, i am to blame, not for losing the item, but trusting Rafaels, and for that, i will and have payed the price. It's just fg, life will go on, it's just a shame that people that have been around this community for so long will still do this.



Sat Jun 18 15:49:58 2011 Sent -11,400.00 (12,004.34 -> 604.34) to Rafaels (950.00 -> 12,350.00) 218 ee XIV Staff

( It's no surprise he's already spent all the fg already )


I won't even deny looking at his profile picture and thinking to myself ' lol, not a chance in hell this guy's not gonna scam '
.. then i thought, lol that was racist, he's in The Trust and he's been around long enough, why would he scam pixels anyways, so i gave him a chance.
I paid for it, meh, it is what it is. and now the truth is out. :facepalm:


Our PM messages - by the way, he claims it was MY IDEA to skip the MP fee, rather it was his - i simply agreed, because saving 600 fg goes a long way for me.







AND SOME FINAL WORDS FROM Rafaels HIMSELF ON THE SUBJECT:

SAYS:






Rafaels: Your integrity is matched only by your intelligence and spelling.

You may have 11.4k extra fg, but i'd still much rather be me losing fg than be like you ;)
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Jun 21 2011 10:35pm
Seems like there are 2 rats around
Jay_jai and rafaels :(

He tried to sell me this staff for 18k though looool ( rafaels )
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Jun 21 2011 10:38pm
Not a surprise, I already raised a red flag about elitists using this tax loop hole, only a matter of time before some punk exploited the LOOPHOLE I already freely questioned and was ignored.

I hope the admins lock both of you for trying to ruin the d2jsp economy by cheating ladder slasher of its tax.

This post was edited by FatZero on Jun 21 2011 10:41pm
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Jun 21 2011 10:39pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but all I got from this, is that you tried to get around the fee. In other words, you were cheating the system...
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Jun 21 2011 10:41pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ 21 Jun 2011 21:39)
Correct me if I am wrong, but all I got from this, is that you tried to get around the fee. In other words, you were cheating the system...


Correct, they scammed the site and I hope they both get locked.
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Jun 21 2011 10:41pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ Jun 21 2011 10:39pm)
Correct me if I am wrong, but all I got from this, is that you tried to get around the fee. In other words, you were cheating the system...


Yes, i've paid thousands and thousands in fees on many many many trade, but i couldn't really afford it at the time, so i settled for a solution.

I dont deny i tried to skip the fee, and for that, i got scammed, i dont deny that, and if you read, i said i'm partially to blame.

But it doesn't void the fact that i have indeed been scammed.
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Jun 21 2011 10:43pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ Jun 22 2011 05:39am)
Correct me if I am wrong, but all I got from this, is that you tried to get around the fee. In other words, you were cheating the system...


wrong + wrong isn't right.
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Jun 21 2011 10:43pm
Quote (TooNArmY @ 21 Jun 2011 21:41)
Yes, i've paid thousands and thousands in fees on many many many trade, but i couldn't really afford it at the time, so i settled for a solution.

I dont deny i tried to skip the fee, and for that, i got scammed, i dont deny that, and if you read, i said i'm partially to blame.

But it doesn't void the fact that i have indeed been scammed.


You tried to cheat njaguar out of his tax which destroys fg to raise the value of it for everyone. You've done deceptive measures against the tax code and this calls for strict regulation.

I hope both of you are locked and that anyone else exploiting this tax loophole is treated as a scammer.

The poorer lower class of d2jsp ladder slasher community has to pay taxes, and the rich users should pay the same taxes we do. They shouldn't be able to forgo paying 640 fg in tax based on the high transaction.


*edit*

Reported for posting a users personal picture without permission, clear violation of this rule:

No usage of another user's personal pictures or information without express permission.


Also citing that you are using it as a flame based on this comment:
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I won't even deny looking at his profile picture and thinking to myself ' lol, not a chance in hell this guy's not gonna scam '
.. then i thought, lol that was racist, he's in The Trust and he's been around long enough, why would he scam pixels anyways, so i gave him a chance.


This post was edited by FatZero on Jun 21 2011 10:46pm
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Jun 21 2011 10:44pm
you scammed rafaels
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Quote (FatZero @ Jun 21 2011 10:43pm)
You tried to cheat njaguar out of his tax which destroys fg to raise the value of it for everyone. You've done deceptive measures against the tax code and this calls for strict regulation.

I hope both of you are locked and that anyone else exploiting this tax loophole is treated as a scammer.


I've paid countless fees, plenty more than you, and i've rid the forum of an absurd amount of fg by buying pointless friend slots, media slots etc that i don't even use, and supported this site through star upgrades and orb purchases. I couldn't afford to overpay such an absurd amount at the time.

Not to mention, everyone on this game has at one point skipped fees through one way or another.

I haven't committed murder, or scammed anyone, go spam another thread. :bonk:
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