How much % do you lose when you put a charm in the acc slot? Wouldnt you need at least that much hm or more for it to be beneficial? For instance if you lose 25%, wouldnt you need at least 25 hm to make up for the loss?

The Accessory Charm is an additional Equipment slot reserved for a second charm. The Accessory slot however does not reflect stats that are on that charm, with exception to Enhanced Effect. Efficiency is reduced by 25% of the total displayed. This charm is used just like the main charm slot and is not reflected by your total inventory space restrictions like the rest of your equipment. When used in Catacombs, the mana usage is also reduced by 25%.
In the inventory, it is abbreviated as Acc. Charm

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This post was edited by Yip12343 on Jun 19 2010 05:30pm

.25 * 1 = .75 (penalty for acc. slot)

.75 * 1.33 = 1 (boost needed to overcome penalty)


so to have the same effectiveness of the same charm in the primary slot you will need to increase the healing by 33% (what that equates to in Int or HM idk)


This post was edited by TyL3r on Jun 19 2010 05:53pm

actually..it was...he asked how much it reduces...check the bolded spots (they say "Efficiency is reduced by 25% of the total displayed" and "the mana usage is also reduced by 25%.")

but TyL3r is correct in saying that you need an improvement of at least 33% to equal it out so a 40% HM or a 40+ Int item would probably be good enough but lower would not

40hm is more, 40 int would be about the same, taking into account the reduced effectiveness of int as it increases.

So anything under 40 hm, I would be better off with heal in main slot? I only use hm charms instead of int since Im just a healer.

no, because while your acc charm only works at 75%, it only uses 75% mana in catacombs

ANY +int or +hm in your main slot will be more effective

gotcha... I guess my 24 hm charm will do until the next one....

I acc slotted my Wild Heal and used a 47% HM charm in the main slot to test it vs main slotting. My results main slotting the Wild were considerably better then acc slotting it and using a 47% HM charm.

Take it for what it is though. Just sharing my experiance. I'd say you would need atleast 55% HM to recover the 25% loss from acc slotting a heal charm.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on Jun 19 2010 06:12pm

I'd expect you to maybe have a higher average main slotting, but you'd definitely have a higher total heal amount using the hm main slot and ee in acc slot.

The -25% to mana/-25% to effectiveness means to me that you'd have nearly the same total heals with the charm in either slot.
That's why Cloudfire is correct in saying any int/hm applied would be better. It would increase the total amount healed.

If that doesn't make sense, please someone by all means correct me.

This post was edited by sigma89 on Jun 19 2010 06:16pm