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Nov 19 2009 07:28am
So. Lots of people go hybrid for catas and solo. Personally I can't afford the hm/str statted items, so I thought I'd share my way of going hybrid with you all :)
Though my gear is quite ok.

Many people might already do this, but I have never seen a thread about it. And its just to help out people :)

Currently I do this on my samurai:
I put all my stats into intel. And the aim is to solo, the times you can't find catas.

Don't remember my HP at all levels, so I'll use my current level as an example.

Level 56 Samurai
Life: 2909 / 2909
Mana: 2955 / 2955
Intelligence: 78

Basically this is what I do:
I start killing monsters, 1-8 chain before my hp hits 750 or so. Then I switch my STR charm for a HM charm, attack next monster.
At that monster, I slash it down so I only need 2-3 more hits to finish it off. Then I heal all up, kill it and switch charms again.
The repeat over and over again as many times as I can.
The times I've tried this, I've over doubled my chain compared to not switching charms.

Atm I'm on a 10"1' mini laptop with mousepad, so I only change the charm.
Other options would be to change STR plate for HM plate or EE plate.

Not sure if it is of big use to anyone, but I would be happy to have read this 5-6 months ago :p
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Nov 19 2009 08:04am
oh cool, gotta try this on my samurai next climb, was thinking about doing something like this but didn't know if it was useful enough, ^^ :)



Quote ([fB] @ Nov 19 2009 04:10pm)
you should spawn a lvl1 mob to heal yourself up, so you dont waste 1/2 of your mana because the mob keeps hitting you for 200 while you heal for 500 ;)
but yes, thats a good way to do it if you cant afford double-stat equip


then you would break your chain ^_^

This post was edited by Salaki on Nov 19 2009 08:13am
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Nov 19 2009 08:10am
you should spawn a lvl1 mob to heal yourself up, so you dont waste 1/2 of your mana because the mob keeps hitting you for 200 while you heal for 500 ;)
but yes, thats a good way to do it if you cant afford double-stat equip
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Nov 19 2009 08:12am
Quote ([fB] @ 19 Nov 2009 15:10)
you should spawn a lvl1 mob to heal yourself up, so you dont waste 1/2 of your mana because the mob keeps hitting you for 200 while you heal for 500 ;)
but yes, thats a good way to do it if you cant afford double-stat equip


Yes you could do that, but I would call that the newbie way to go hybrid. This is kinda the next step in my opinion.
Supposedly longer chains will give you more xp and better drops (magic luck).

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Quote (Adversary @ 19 Nov 2009 15:23)
Dont think thats such a good idea. what happens when you get cracked for like 900 at 750life. You die. This wouldn't be so good.



That hasn't happen to me before 65+. And you could always start healing process when you have ~1k life left.

/e 2 The Mediocre Hybrid Way - that's why I put the topic name I did.

And yes, I do agree with you [fb].

This post was edited by jaywalker on Nov 19 2009 08:30am
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Nov 19 2009 08:23am
Dont think thats such a good idea. what happens when you get cracked for like 900 at 750life. You die. This wouldn't be so good.
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Quote (jaywalker @ 19 Nov 2009 16:12)
Yes you could do that, but I would call that the newbie way to go hybrid. This is kinda the next step in my opinion.
Supposedly longer chains will give you more xp and better drops (magic luck).


yes, but then you have to be able to afford pretty good heals, because its useless if you have a 80ee heal and 50hm from gear and heal for like 300average while you get hit for 200average.
unless you are able to reach at least chains of 15 with your method i would prefer breaking the chain, because the magic luck doesnt really work anyway and you will still have to regen sometimes because you loose too much mana and dont find enough shrinables. healing on a lvl1 mob will give you the ability to use the full potential of your mana pool and might make the runs faster even if you break the chain, because you dont need to regen at all.

so your method is for those with mediocre budget, and mine for the poorer ones :)
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Nov 19 2009 08:45am
I did the same with monk, had my HM robe on once I got to under 1k life, then healed myself up within the next mob and was still able to kill the mob easily..

I was able to do easy 20-25 chains at 65 and maybe even higher at 55, but haven't tested..
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Nov 19 2009 08:51am
Quote (Homero @ 19 Nov 2009 15:45)
I did the same with monk, had my HM robe on once I got to under 1k life, then healed myself up within the next mob and was still able to kill the mob easily..

I was able to do easy 20-25 chains at 65 and maybe even higher at 55, but haven't tested..


yeah but 20-25 chain slow as hell, its better to do 10 chain fast, than 25 chain slow
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yes, but then you have to be able to afford pretty good heals, because its useless if you have a 80ee heal and 50hm from gear and heal for like 300average while you get hit for 200average.
unless you are able to reach at least chains of 15 with your method i would prefer breaking the chain, because the magic luck doesnt really work anyway and you will still have to regen sometimes because you loose too much mana and dont find enough shrinables. healing on a lvl1 mob will give you the ability to use the full potential of your mana pool and might make the runs faster even if you break the chain, because you dont need to regen at all.

so your method is for those with mediocre budget, and mine for the poorer ones :)


Lawl i used your method My first couple of climbs with a rouge Lol 2-3 kills then summon level 1 and heal It was slow but it got the job done!!!

As for Going Mediocer hybrid I dont know if it's to good of a call for those with out the proper gear when they stat pure int they lose a lot of killing power they get to heal a little bit But That doesn't mean shit if you have to hit a monster 30 times to kill it at higher levels.. It all depends on your normal melee Gear and the killing power of it! I am a firm believer of Hybrids I've climbed Pure casting and Pure melee and I can't stand it Granted pure casting you kill a lot faster but I never find enough shrines.. The advantages of a Good hybrid is just amazing.. I've always been a fan of melee never could quite stand going casting But let's face it for the most part melee sucks at high levels hard to get good chains. As soon as i switched to Hybrid I was getting full chains Even at the higher level the gear was more expensive but tottally worth it!

Trying to get people to further explore the capabilities of hybrids is a great thing but it like any thing still requires the fg and isn't cheap, but all and all nice post!!!
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Nov 19 2009 09:10am
Quote (benell @ 19 Nov 2009 15:51)
yeah but 20-25 chain slow as hell, its better to do 10 chain fast, than 25 chain slow


As full melee, I chain 5-10 at 55+. Then regen. With "my mediocre hybrid way", I can chain 20-30. And all in all, the time I use to level drops from 10-12 min, down to 8-10. So I know for sure I gain on it.

might be worth to mention that I avg ~500 when I stat all intel. Here is my gear

http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=340247&p=255758

Totally I payed 6.7k for melee gear and ~5800 for healing gear (6.1k if you add hm plate in my vault).

Ofc this won't AS WELL if you have 100ee weapon and 100ee heal.

This works BEST for heavy armored classes. But it's ok for monk/ninja aswell. Though I prefeer the lvl 1 mob when doing monk or ninja.
And, if I do find a group, I have the chance to heal the group alone if the group is decent.
I can change between ~100hm/23MS or 130-140HM (should have a better hm/intel rate, but yeah)


Quote (Dialupsucks123 @ 19 Nov 2009 16:11)
i do full chains from 1-65 with normal melee gear and awesome wild heals :D


But you have 247 (?) ee sword, I would say that is WAY beyong mediocre set :) You could probably use hm charm and plate, and still kill faster than me :p

This post was edited by jaywalker on Nov 19 2009 09:14am
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