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Oct 8 2010 08:17am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 8 2010 10:13am)
Lvl 50 Samurai using a 151EE dagger

Str vs Dex comparisons after  approx 100 actions on each charm

104 actions
Using the dex charm, total dmg 51,879, (266//499//1068)
183 hits for 6,744 dmg taken
Str 96, Dex 152


100 actions
Using the str charm, total dmg 39,092, (0//391//916)
Str 127, Dex 107
136 hits for 2558 dmg taken


The Ratio is 10/90 of str and dex.

You should have base str of the character and like 200 dex if you want to come anywhere close to hitting optimal or maximize damage with dagger.

Use your brain.
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Oct 8 2010 08:24am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 8 2010 02:13pm)
Lvl 50 Samurai using a 151EE dagger

Str vs Dex comparisons after  approx 100 actions on each charm

104 actions
Using the dex charm, total dmg 51,879, (266//499//1068)
183 hits for 6,744 dmg taken
Str 96, Dex 152


100 actions
Using the str charm, total dmg 39,092, (0//391//916)
Str 127, Dex 107
136 hits for 2558 dmg taken


Did I get this right, you took less damage with 2nd (str) setup?

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Oct 8 2010 08:26am
Quote (DeafBoy @ Oct 8 2010 11:17am)
The Ratio is 10/90 of str and dex.

You should have base str of the character and like 200 dex if you want to come anywhere close to hitting optimal or maximize damage with dagger.

Use your brain.


This is using my existing char's -- were I to start from lvl1 under the new criteria, i am sure the results would appear different.

I also suggest you tone down your attitude when talking to me
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Oct 8 2010 08:35am
Quote (Harpel @ Oct 8 2010 07:24am)
Did I get this right, you took less damage with 2nd (str) setup?


I saw this too..........
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Oct 8 2010 08:40am
Daggertest:

Ricks Setup 1:
96 Str
152 Dex
Dagger: -> 96*0,1+152*0,9 = 146,4
Avg Dam: 499
499/146,4 = 3,408

Ricks Setup 2:
127 Str
107 Dex
Dagger: ->127*0,1+107*0,9 = 109
Avg Dam: 391
391/109 = 3,587

The values Damage/Combined Stats dont fit as good as last time (~5% difference), but this may be because of the monsters defense. Still, the error is not that big.

Damage taken:

Setup 1:
avg damage taken: 36,85

Setup 2:
avg damage taken: 18,81

These Values differ A LOT! Especially if the higher avg damage received was with the str-setup. There might be a mistake?I dont know why, maybe because of the monsters and damage type.

Rick: how many different monsters did you fight, and what armor-values do you have?

Big thx again for this test! I am sure this one will help all of us :hug:

This post was edited by Harpel on Oct 8 2010 08:41am
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Oct 8 2010 08:56am
lvl65 fighter

testing with
Magical godwood club
Level Req: 55
Damage: 179 to 805

+119% Enhanced Effect


Godly ultimanium chain mail
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 46 to 116
Magical Defense: 0 to 47

+55 Strength
+20 Dexterity
+22 Vitality
+53 Intelligence
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Mana Regen
+1 to 26 Life per Kill
+5% Parry

The charms that I did the test with::

Magical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109

+59 Dexterity


Rare ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109

+40 Strength

+1 Jubilance

Str vs Dex comparisons after approx 100 actions on each charm

108 actions
Using the dex charm, total dmg 51,028, (94//472//1396)
163 hits for 4,801 dmg taken
Str 173, Dex 119


119 actions ( had to dispose of 3 EP's)
Using the str charm, total dmg 69,963, (103//588//1584)
219 hits for 15,078 dmg taken
Str 213, Dex 60
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Oct 8 2010 09:07am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 8 2010 10:56am)
lvl65 fighter

testing with
Magical godwood club
Level Req: 55
Damage: 179 to 805

+119% Enhanced Effect


Godly ultimanium chain mail
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 46 to 116
Magical Defense: 0 to 47

+55 Strength
+20 Dexterity
+22 Vitality
+53 Intelligence
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Mana Regen
+1 to 26 Life per Kill
+5% Parry

The charms that I did the test with::

Magical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109

+59 Dexterity


Rare ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109
+40 Strength
+1 Jubilance

Str vs Dex comparisons after approx 100 actions on each charm

108 actions
Using the dex charm, total dmg 51,028, (94//472//1396)
163 hits for 4,801 dmg taken
Str 173, Dex 119


119 actions ( had to dispose of 3 EP's)
Using the str charm, total dmg 69,963, (103//588//1584)
219 hits for 15,078 dmg taken
Str 213, Dex 60


i hope ur not exploring the maze and just running in the black so eps dont mess the numbers up
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Oct 8 2010 09:08am
Quote (Boss @ Oct 8 2010 12:07pm)
i hope ur not exploring the maze and just running in the black so eps dont mess the numbers up


How about you trying something similar rather than bitching about it
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Oct 8 2010 09:11am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 8 2010 10:08am)
How about you trying something similar rather than bitching about it


I think you've had the same sig/ava for like 3 years <3

def has been the same since i played LS a few years ago
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Oct 8 2010 09:11am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 8 2010 11:08am)
How about you trying something similar rather than bitching about it


how the fuck was i bitching? i was just trying to make sure your information was equal
and ill assume you were just running around the maze there fore ur numbers mean nothing

This post was edited by Boss on Oct 8 2010 09:12am
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