I absolutely love this idea, few minor kinks to work out, but great idea, I vote yes and I personally would pay the fee, and use it very often [x] YES

Communist!!

And I really like this idea, yes from me

this would totally ruin the market for low end items.
you can already buy a lvl55 charm with ~80ee for less then 20fg, and lower level starter items are even cheaper. if items like that will be given to beginners for free they wont even sell for 10fg soon, and this will also lower the price for the items with ~100ee and so on...
the suggestion might help a few slashers, but it also takes away the possibility to sell average items you find (also from beginners in need of some fg). the vault fee is also something that is probably higher then the value of most of the items that are being transferred, so it wont pay off.
another problem is that it is somehow not possible to add a "not sellable" tag to the item id, at least paul said something like that when the idea of a "guild vault" came up.

if you want to help you should get in touch with some beginners and help them individually. then you can also watch their progress, help them if they have questions, and make sure your help isnt abused.
if you tell them what items to keep etc they will be able to afford good enough gear to be able to play without problems after 1-2 climbs

people use this to xfer between friends outside of the guild?

if so, i dont like it

This post was edited by joelmules on Nov 18 2009 12:23pm

read again he has some ideas and solutions for this problem

I throw junk like that away, because no one wants it except new people who can't afford it. You have 20k, so buying gear isn't an issue for you, but 20fg might be a big deal to someone else. This isn't saying you must donate, it's for those that would like to. If you want to continue to selling for 80ee 55 charm for 20fg, so be it, I'd rather help the newer community. The vets are slowly finding new games to play and we need to jump start the newer players. We cry about not having people for our groups, but kick those using less than mediocre gear. Let's try supporting them rather than telling them to leave.

1 on 1 support can only go so far. Starter gear is what will make the difference. I started this game with nothing and hated it, Jeight gave me some of his unused crappy gear and it made a huge difference, it made me want to play, understand the mechanics, and find better gear to lower my climb time.

See the thing is. Vault costs 100fg (+100 for transfers). So think about it, the people getting donated are already spending 200fg. If you have 200fg, why not just spend it on the mp in the first place?

I think this would just be a luxury add-on for people who want to transfer between guilds.

Great idea, imo the person should have to pay 50 fg - 100 fg to donate -- like a weekly transfer. Its a good idea

Thnx Joe

i voted yes. I like it. Anyone who wants to help a new player or a poor player by giving him or her some gear should pay to donate. If you give nice gear to someone less fortunate out of the kindness of your heart, its no big deal to tack on a 100 fg fee for the transfer and possibly also add a slot to select the option to pay the receiver's vault fee, because if they cant afford to buy gear, they prolly cant afford to buy a vault. I think the fee should be higher tho because it shouldnt be abused, like if 2 people want to avoid the transfer tax on a big ticket sale. Should make the fee higher.

This is a nice idea and the intention is great. You have looked at the initial way to proceed in this idea.
There are a few things that I think that have been stated incorrectly:

To Donate freely... is to give without any monetary (fg) compensation... this idea just states that both parties HAVE to use fg to get the so-called "Donated Item"
Now... for a comeback... there is mention that you can donate to that person MANY items over the 7 day xfer period which will in effect be cheaper than buying items
from the Market Place... and the return is higher... it is still not donating... Donator has to spend fg to give and the donatee has to BUY the items that are being donated (small fee of course)

On D2 I gave away a ton of items... no one paid a sent for it... I just made a game... dropped all items on the ground... left... boom: Donated

So... let us think of another way to donate to people on LS....

1. Create a Donation Thread (specifics to come from LS)
2. This is hard to explain in simple words... so follow the Q/A's below
... Q... I need a sword/armor/charm to start me out in each level... someone help me plz... just started
... A... I can help you ... I will put them on the MP for you to get... all you need to do is put your ID# into the "LOAN" section and you will see all the items

Reference to #2 above:
Everyone is issued this ID# number... it can be found in your profile... it is also your Vault #... this has already been tagged to each person... so... you have a "Loan To"
section in the "Market Place"... you put in the ID# and all the items that you want to "DONATE" to that person...

Now... in reference to giving to Paul... and to recycle this FG business... you might want to incorporate a DONORS fee ONLY... of 5fg to go to Paul...
This is only payable from the person DONATING items...

Do not get me wrong... I like the idea to donate... I do it myself... but for both parties to PAY for it... it is not donating at all...