Well... I took the time to re read the updates that Paul has done, and it has
come to my attention, that he really has tried to appease this community.

Now, even after all my suggestions, I have to admit that his task is a hell of alot
harder than we think... so... if you take the time to read his updates over again,
even if you have quit... you may come to acknowledge that the community has
actually failed because of their own thoughts... don't like the truth... then grow
a set... for it is just our own BS that has ruined this game.

Latest Update: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=60099318&f=272

Read all the others: http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/

Yeah... after reading all the updates and some of the posts that I have seen
in the past, it has been an enlightenment.

We ask for things to happen... and when it does... we bitch and moan... oh well
guess this community is not as grown up as we think... so before you bitch and
moan ... take a read, look at some old posts, and open your own eyes before
preaching...

Regards
Old Fart having fun... even if I am pissed...



This is the thing... we look at what he has taken OUT of the game, but, we don't look at what he has PUT into the game.

I mean... come on... letting us access vault while in catacombs... that was genius... as for other things... we should look outside of the box.

Yup... outside of the box people... don't live life inside.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 29 2012 02:59pm

You sure about that rex?

Im pretty sure that he said " This is my game if you don't like it don't play it I made it for myself" ( ofc it probly wasn't thoose exact words but some variation of that.)

if he really listened to the community and tried to appease us he would stop taking things out of the game that the majority of us liked.

I truthfully don't care what he does to the game now since I don't play it.

My old post went something like this and I know because I got suspended for a few of them

1. wow ruined muting system
2. wow ruined life steal
3. wow fucked up the pally before I ever got to play him
4. wow where the fuck is my arena?
5. what do you mean I have to well with other people?



He's put in things I don't give a shit about and never would have I wanted to find items upgrade my gear and click away at non moving monsters inbetween watching anime or waiting for trades in d2 or maybe I just smoked alot of weed and didn't want to do anything of effort...

1. glyphing=kewl but I don't give a shit about it I don't buy them I think overall there a waste of fg that only saves you maybe a few minutes per climb and you won't make nearly as much fg during that climb as you spent on them glyphs
2. fishing= good for mirror maze but I don't aim for quest I am for lvl 71 then mq thats all I want
3. he put in maze= I don't even like the maze I prefered no maze and arena waaayyy more

the list goes on and on

I'd go on but I got to go to work but trust me I NEVER asked for any of the things he did to this game I don't blame him like he said it's his game

and If I don't like it I shouldn't play so I don't

This post was edited by Ensane on Jun 29 2012 03:05pm

People bitched about how the market is crashing because too many good items so he took out muting and made it a skill that you have to earn
-He added a higher drop rate in cata far later to compensate though

People bitched about how arena was too hard and that you need to good gear to climb there and get good drops
-He took out arena and made it an easier game all round for everyone

Sadly, that took out the fun because now there is no challenge
Paul tried to compensate and make objectives but nothing is as fun as that CCC
Taking out arena also made a lot of stats useless zzz

List goes on and on but my keyboard is broken and it's hard to type


e: basically this is all of our faults. Hence why I have never posted in a topic like this, voted in a shitty pole and complained.

We did this. period.

e2; sorry, the bitching newbs who couldn't get good gear and was jelous because all they were able to do was lame ass catacomb are the losers who did this.

This post was edited by JeremyLepage on Jun 29 2012 03:09pm

Only the people who weren't willing to put in the effort or the time into the game bitched about arena. No idea why he would change the game for people like that.

The Arena was the reason why I played this game.

Okay you edited and fixed it

This post was edited by Braxton11 on Jun 29 2012 03:10pm

Honestly, all we need is arena back with CCC and the game would explode again.

The CCC was the reason why getting good gear was worth it.

e;

Everything else is adaptable.

Ratios? Okay cool that makes this game more strategic
Abilities? We don't need any in arena, we have stats that are ridiculous in the arena that catas can't even touch.
Well in cata? Cool, when we want to use it AT LEAST IT IS STILL THERE. Look for it.
Monsters have abilities? Not in arena, leave that for greedy people who want 'more' out of the game in catacombs. (hence the bitches who always want more than everyone else because nothing is fair)
Cata has higher drops rate? Not vs my 33 MCC in arena because I earned my 50kfg gear to do that.

etc etc

Everything else though, like the benefits he added in this game like the exp gain from alchemists and all those vault days are just freakin' gravy on my chicken sammich



BUT who cares, if you don't want to play then dont and stop complaining. You're just going to ruin it for the rest of us


e2; Also the nerfs he did was good. Honestly, why would you want to be able to steal 130 life every hit? Is it too hard if it's 13-130?

This post was edited by JeremyLepage on Jun 29 2012 03:31pm

I like this topic

I would like to see from the game more rewards, more unlockables, more reasons and incentives to poor the massive amount of hours into this game that the game requires for a player to be successful. I never offer suggestions because I believe they are useless and overlooked by the person these suggestions are supposed to be for. But... if I did make suggestions, things that I would be suggesting would be the below.





Here are some things that I would like to see and would happily bring me back to LS:

-Add another 4 and 5 door class with unique playing styles (similar to how HH is unique)

-Make GP's in some way worth something. If it is tallied for an unlockable of some sort, or gives rewards for certain GP milestones, something. GP's and the effort and time put in this game has to be built on to work towards a goal. If reset is the only true absolute goal in this game, then most all of us will just play this game because we like to fail at things in life.

-Allow good gear to be noticeably better than mediocre gear (which is what most the LS community has). Right now, mediocre gear fairs par against great gear. I think this one hurt me the most, as when abilities put all gear essentially on par with each other and with arena gone (where good gear shined the brightest) it really took a lot of my interest away since I always strive to have the best gear possible. So that motivation and determination from me was gone. I think "elite" gear, if you would, should give an advantage, as it should. This would also help fix the economy.

-Arena... ugh... I said it! Come at me! It's no secret Arena was the nail in the coffin for most the LS community, but maybe... just MAYBE something like this can be implemented: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54674564&f=272 Maybe not exactly like that, since obviously Top Men seem to not like the idea... but shit! The Arena is what built this game from the ground up, you can not dispute and ignore that fact. It WAS the backbone of LS.

-Add more features to the game. All we have is the catacombs... and shit does that get repetitive and boring. Even the damn well is in the catas now. When the well of evil was it's own entity, atleast it added some diversity to this game. The game needs new features, and some diversity to keep the re-play value higher. Because many people can take failing at a game only so many times before they quit and move on. Bring some other reasons to play.

-PvP needs a MASSIVE overhaul. For quite some time, I was very excited about PvP in LS. Especially if real time ranking and ladder structure was going to be implemented. That would bring A LOT of excitement into LS I believe. But not how PvP sits now, it needs more work. It's a work in progress, but start adding ladders, challenges, wagers, etc... now we start getting interesting.

-One of the big drawbacks of LS is the fact it is 100% operated, controlled, designed, coded, etc... by 1 person. I think if Paul accepted help, and brought the strengths of other parties into the game, it could be a HUGE plus and benefit to the game. No popular, successful game is completely created by 1 person. There is an army of people lending their expertise to the project. I'm not saying LS needs an army of people, because it doesn't, but it could use some more input from different areas of expertise outside of Pauls.

-This is minor, but dammit, every fricken character graphic image is the same template with a different color facial hair.... my god... lets get a better graphic artist into this game to make at least the characters more unique and better to look at. The old style characters were 100x better than the current. And while I am at it, get rid of that stupid triangle in the maze and put back that beautiful silhouette of your character as the maze cursor. That was so awesome.

-Bring some elemental resistances to the game and to the mobs. For example... take slugslider... An ice mob, and make him have a resistance against Ice charms, and a weakness against Fire charms. Mobs shouldn't have just a general magic resistance or all melee resistance. Add more detail and specialties to it.


I have plenty more ideas, so Paul if you'd like to chat sometime, let me know

E: Added another suggestion to the end of my list about resistances.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on Jun 29 2012 04:10pm

Now this is one of the most constructive threads Ive seen so far compared to most that are generally posted. People are actually thinking big picture here and realising good vs bad of the game overall. Good reads so far, look forward to more constructive posts

Only thing I saw was how he congratulated Joshie for being the first on HC to get rank 1 muting.

I didn't get no gratz for being first to rank 1 Suffesencing!

First topic like this I found worth posting on this part of the forum in over a year.