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Jan 16 2010 04:04pm
There are some people that disagree on some things in gaining proficiencies... so I tested this out for myself:
Tested @ level 21 in Arena ONLY... not welling or Catacombs

9669 (staff)
1st attack (no gain)
2nd attack 9670
3rd attack 9671
4th attack (killing blow) 9672

That is 1 point per hit... and 1 point on killing blow
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Based on this...
1. You do not gain Prof points on first attack
2. You can gain consequetive points on each attack
3. You can gain point on Killing Blow
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If you disagree with this, then test it yourself to find out.
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2nd Test
9672
9672
9673
9673
9673
9673
9674
9674

Low damage compared to previous monster... same level same item

Looks Like it can be random
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3rd TEST... this changes something... same level/same item

Started: 9674

1st hit........................ 9675 <-- Yes I gained a prof on first hit
2nd 9675
3rd 9676
4th 9677 (killing blow)
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4th Test... different again

9677 (1st hit)
9677 (2nd hit)
9677 (killing blow)

No points
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5th Test... same as 4th test... 3 hit kill and no prof gain

Based on Wigwams post... going to log back on to see if I have gained some profs based on Server side issues...
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Okay... this makes no SENSE now... I just closed down and logged back on...

My Staff Prof reads: .... .... 9674 (that is a loss... as if I did not kill those monsters)

Could be a glitch... and it is annoying at the least...
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:rofl: just noticed that in TEST 4 & 5... I had gained a level... so of course I get no Profs...
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4 attacks.... gained 3 prof points (not for killing blow)... so back to 9677
5 attacks... gained 4 prof points (1 for killing blow and 1st attack)... 9681
4 attacks... gained 4 prof points (1 per attack)... 9785
4 attacks... no gain...
7 attacks... gain 3 prof points
5 attacks... gain 3 prof points (killing blow also)
7 attacks... gain 2 prof... 1st hit and killing blow


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 16 2010 04:32pm
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Jan 16 2010 04:06pm
Hmm ok, t4i I guess

e: I'msofirst

This post was edited by Svartermetalisk on Jan 16 2010 04:07pm
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Jan 16 2010 04:10pm
you will experiance some client side lag as far as the prof bar is concerned making accurate readings on prof gain difficult
for example i can read a +1 from the first hit sometimes
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Jan 16 2010 04:34pm
What if your killing blow is your first blow?

Aka say I use a heavy weapon from levels 1-5, you are saying I will not get any experience if I one shot kill everything?

wait your saying it is possible now?

Can you bold your conclusion or something please.

I believe it's 1 prof per 2-3 hits hits if monster is higher then your prof level and current level.

This post was edited by arxyn on Jan 16 2010 04:37pm
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Quote (arxyn @ Jan 17 2010 10:34am)
What if your killing blow is your first blow?

Aka say I use a heavy weapon from levels 1-5, you are saying I will not get any experience if I one shot kill everything?

wait your saying it is possible now?

Can you bold your conclusion or something please.

I believe it's 1 prof per 2-3 hits hits if monster is higher then your prof level and current level.


By my testing... there are the occasions that I gain a prof point on the:
1st attack and also the final blow.... this being the case... you will on occasions gain a point with a 1 hit kill.

I can not say 100% if this is correct... I have to test that out on a totally new character and have the items to test...
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Quote (arxyn @ Jan 17 2010 10:52am)
Ok so yeah my thesis is right, 1 prof every 2-3 hits.


Not necessarily... i have gained 1 point per consecutive attacks (4 maximum so far)

Unless you are talking about the 1 hit kill scenario?


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 16 2010 04:55pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 16 2010 10:48pm)
By my testing... there are the occasions that I gain a prof point on the:
1st attack and also the final blow.... this being the case... you will on occasions gain a point with a 1 hit kill.

I can not say 100% if this is correct... I have to test that out on a totally new character and have the items to test...


Ok so yeah my thesis is right, 1 prof every 2-3 hits.
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Jan 16 2010 05:26pm
make it easy on your self and dont worry about the exp gained or not. A better worry would be if weapon and charm profs even do what they say they do.
Since its not availble to be seen. THere are other stats that dont work like they read eather so... Anyways I dont care one way or another. Just thought I'd bug the topic a bit.
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Jan 16 2010 05:44pm
Quote (thunderga @ Jan 16 2010 06:26pm)
make it easy on your self and dont worry about the exp  gained or not.  A better worry would be if  weapon and charm profs even do what they say they do.
Since its not  availble to be seen.    THere are other stats that dont work like they read eather so...  Anyways I dont care one way or another.  Just thought I'd bug the topic a bit.


Pretty sure if you ask McClain, he will tell you proficiencies work.

I've noticed it working as well, but to what extent only Paul knows.



Nice experiment Rex. B)

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Jan 16 2010 05:44pm
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Jan 16 2010 08:39pm
lol thanks for doing this. i'm really interested in how profs work, even though most people really don't care... i figure it's better to know stuff like this and let it become subconscious to benefit myself..

but i've been putting off doing something like this for a while...
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Im interested in a definite answer too, but I dont think thats possible without knowing the game code from Paul himself.

But who knows, maybe after enough tests it would be possible to determine exactly how it works
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