Quote (dakariii @ Jul 1 2016 03:19pm)
Is it right to raise and eat animals?
What criteria should we look at to decide?
Are animals conscious?
Continuation of random discussion
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74645187&f=197&o=20Yeah but that's just an argument for the way they're treated, I don't think many people would argue that it's fine the way it is
It would be easier to change to laws for the treatment of livestock rather than forcing everyone to go vegan
As to whether it's right to do this to something conscious, even if the conditions are good, I don't know. They wouldn't exist at all if it wasn't the case and i tend to feel any sort of life/experience is good without a certain amount of suffering. It ends up going to religion and the nature/origin of consciousness. But I guess people just pretend they aren't conscious which makes all these ethical questions go away.
actually i dont think majority mind enough how they are treated since they are eating whaever is tastiest / cheapest
i think we should (obviously stop subsiding meat/dairy/egg) start taxing factory farmed meat and dairy progressively up until ban it totally
i dont think its right but if they would have full Free life (which isnt the case at all when factory farmed so their life isnt worth living)
i dont think it is or should be religious at all but religious people should be in avant garde of not eating animals
Quote (Devil_kin @ Jul 1 2016 03:24pm)
if it's possible to sustain without eating meat or animal products then it's immoral as it's the creation of arbitrary suffering
this 100%