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Apr 3 2011 11:49am
Ok so this is a good one. I know FFVII front to back ... back to front .. so on.


This guy claims to have maxed stats for ALL main characters, have each limit except for aeris final, and maxed all stats in under 23hrs I will quote him in green and me in purple so you know me from him.

Ok this guy starts out asking me how quick i beat FFVII and i replied 15hrs, and shortly after my statement calls me a liar.... goes to later saying
"I would just say your main guys maxed out at 99 with all max stats. You would need to beat every boss and get every limit ( except aeith's final )" and he claims he has done this in 22-23 hours i believe (read on)





Ok this starts off and he says I can't beat the game in 15 hours at all .. withouth even MASTERING as he says FFVII ... So once he replies back the above statement this is where it kicks off after his quote above in green cause i thought he said just beating the game and not MASTERING it too.. I was replying sayin basically oops I made a mistake sry bro.



No not dumb just simply mistaken .. i thought you meant only the emeral weapon battle and not 100% the game at all ..


100% the game takes me over 100hrs lol so thats my bad..


quickest i beat the game is 15hrs total with no 100%


just a simple mistake is all




You said you could 100% in 15-20. How bout 15-18 hours to beat the entire game. BUT you have to beat emerald without using cait sith.


Nah bro I cannot do that lol .. you were right :D that is crazy .. you got a video to that shit? I'd love to see someone do that and would watch the whole thing haha..

I could possibly achieve close to that in my mind but know it would fall WAYYY short of what I am thinking .. thats like a speedclear haha ...

and when you say 100% do you mean mastering all materias? and getting master materia? cause if so i'd love to see that shit .. i don't see how thats possible at all.


I consider 100% all materia mastered. Aeris final limit achieved/side quests etc.

CrAzY bro lmk if you have a sc vid for that haha XD




Na I would just say your main guys maxed out at 99 with all max stats. You would need to beat every boss and get every limit ( except aeith's final ) I wouldn't be gay about that. I'm not saying you have to 100% the game for the 2.5k bet, if you can beat the entire game plus emerald + ruby and do this without using cait sith cheap trick for any boss in 15-18 Hours you get paid. Once again I will have some rules though that you would need to follow to make sure it's authentic. My fastest time doing this was 22 hours, so if you could do it in under 18 that would be very very impressive. Once again you would have to wager something in return, 10% or loss most likely.


I'll think it over only part I dont see happening is maxing stats in less than 18hrs... thats a bit rough .. and i think impossible. You would have to fight a battle for 1-3 + attributes for each attribute .. and for each character .. that right there is like ... a week i think if you dont sleep/eat/or do anything. Cause you can't W-Item the Str/Vit/Mag/Etc +'s

Beating the game w/emeral + ruby beat will be about 15-20hrs .. maxing stats would take a LONG time



maxing stats is easy if you know how to play the game legit lol ( I fuckin LOL'd here .. since obviously playing legit is quicker, cause thats whats hes saying i guess. )



I know how to play legit .. you have to morph enemies to get str up/dex up/magic up .... and the easiest is str .. and it takes about 1 min to morph the enemy wich == 1 str per minute 60+ times and multpilied by each character .. other morph would take WAY to long due to multiple enemies in that area so multiply those by crazy numbers since you randomly fall into a battle that could result in 6+ enemy types of that area... it's not possible to max stats and have game beat under even 18 minutes. This is a very valid point he later claims dex is the easiest which it isnt because of falling into RANDOM battles with different monsters in that area.



Well I did it in 22 and you're bragging like you were hot shit lol. Just thought I'd offer the challenge up



It's impossible to Max stats in FFVII with each character at lvl 99 each and all limits, but aeris final limit...

Lets do some math here .. the EASIEST stat to max is Str since you can always find the main enemiy without encountering other enemies of that area.. which is found in the Destroyed Gongaga Reactor area where you get titan .. it's obtained from morphing one of the Triceratops looking monsters with a tank like bottom for moving.... it takes 1-2 morphs to get the str+

This battle takes about a min cut/end scene to obtain a +1 str .. do that (about 60 times we'll say wich is low IMHO) for each character (I'm going to even omit extra time stuff .. like going into the inventory and using the 60 str each time for each character) Since this monster IS ALWAYS found it's the easiest one to make my point on.... here is some useful info-->

60min X 8 = 8hours gone from your time in game just to master STR alone (Now this was decrease by ALOT since most ppl need more than 60str) so think about that..

Also in several areas where you need to get other +'s like Mag/Dex/Etc there are Multiple enemies wich means you will not find them more than 1/3 or 1/4 of the time ... and they take longer to morph.

So that being said ... I don't see that possible without some kind of gameshark.




Your wrong lol obviously you haven't played this game legit. The easiest stat to max is speed, you encounter these enemies in groups of 2-6 and 1x certain attack will drop them all to 1x morph attack per. The battle takes about 5 minutes if that ( if 6x are present ) and it goes faster and faster the more your speed gets up obviously. It's always best to max your speed first anyways even if not going for Emerald right off the bat because it allows you to max the others faster. It's really not that difficult an the fact that your trying to debate this with me and I know you have never beaten emerald without tons of practice and without googling how to kill him easiest shows me that not only are you a newb that you are one of those newbs who has actually convinced himself he is good lol. Please stop talking to me, my time is a legit and real record. It's the first time ever trying on a real time trial, no doubt it's probably my best time since I had just played the game through twice. Still though non the less I've done it and it's not impossible by any means. Maxing speed or getting it into the high 1xx range or the low 2xx range is a must for beating Emerald " The Legit Way". Lmk when you can finally learn to do something without looking it up lol. It's actually quite pathetic that you would even bring up ff7 to me when you haven't ever beaten the game ( all of it's bosses, which is what i consider beating it ) one single time, without using a fucking retarded newb method.


You mad bro?


There are several ways to beat emerald/ruby ... Vincents glitch ... Barret with mime for counter/limit ... and Cait sith ... or even just counter materia on 1 person several times ...

Still impossible since it takes too long tho :D i could see possibly str happening .. but still your not going to encounter all 6 enemies 100% of the time each battle (on the spd+) ... lmk more info on that and I'd be glad to prove you wrong again :D




How have you proven me wrong lol? I did it legit in 22 hours maxing out my 3 mains, your the one who is obviously " mad bro". You fail with epic style and then accuse me of being wrong after I've already done it. Stop being mad since you obviously have never beaten the game legit or done anything without looking it up. I played this game and beat it without ever looking a damn thing up online. Did everything 100% legit my second time through, first time I played; I was like seven or eight. I got stuck on the second disc I'm pretty sure. The next time I played it through I was like ten and I dominated the game without ever being a little bitch about it like some people. I set my record probably three yeas ago, it's really not that difficult if you know exactly what your doing and you have beaten the game twenty times before without once using any cheap methods.

Your logic is also flawed seeing as i stated it takes "5 minutes or less " if you are fighting six enemies. It takes much less time the lower number of enemies present so I really don't know what your point is, facing less then six enemies every time has no effect on the overall time it takes to perform the task of maxing out. Please if you have nothing useful to say and all you can do is talk and fail to act, kindly refrain from pming me again. You have proven yourself time and time again to be nothing but a loud mouth with no real skill. I'll pay out the 2k if you can even top my time, which at this point I'm certain you couldn't even come close to.

It's been done so no matter what you say it really doesn't matter. I maxed out completely before fighting emerald and ruby since I wanted no chance of loosing. I didn't consider myself done until I had traded in for the master materia. Let me know if your going to spew more lies or step up to the challenge. You still have no fg and no credibility so you have nothing to wager. Your status on jsp shows that your either a complete rand or more likely a multi. You can't seem to play any games legit, once again really not all that surprising. People who suck at one video game and have to cheat to accomplish anything tend to keep those trends throughout gaming.

I urge you to replay through the game just for your own accord. Or possibly try one of the final fantasies you haven't looked everything up on. I think it would do you some good to try playing through without cheating ( this being a obvious first for you ) .



ALSO PLZ PLZ PLZ LET ME KNOW YOUR INFO IN THIS CAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT!

This post was edited by D2WIKIGURU on Apr 3 2011 12:04pm
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there are 9 characters
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i agree 100% with anything you said
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Quote (zarkadon @ Apr 3 2011 12:50pm)
there are 9 characters

I could not recall thanks for the correction :D I added up the ones i remembered really fast so yeah could have missed one :P

Cloud, barret, cid, vincent, tifa, yuffie, aeris, cait sith, red XIII

Quote (Kotex @ Apr 3 2011 12:50pm)
i agree 100% with anything you said

I know right ... thanks for your support on this


And yeah im kinda a nerd for talking to this guy ... but FFVII .. i know my shit .. now also if i am wrong i usually thank the other party for updating my knowledge and am very well mannered about it.

Unless...

your an aZZhole lol..




I know so much about this game because i failed school and only played this game for a few YEARS... (thank you dis-functional family of mine) :D .. So I am up for good debates on this and his logic makes NO sense at all .. saying things like (if you played it legit) ... and always being un-reasoonable about his mess ups.. I am sure you will see me correct myself when I am wrong in that convo.. lol

This post was edited by D2WIKIGURU on Apr 3 2011 12:01pm
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Apr 3 2011 12:00pm
iso tl;dr version
i read frst few paragraphs then quit
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tl;dr ofc.
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Apr 3 2011 12:03pm
Quote (Starfruit @ Apr 3 2011 01:00pm)
iso tl;dr version
i read frst few paragraphs then quit


pm me on what you mean lol I am not familiar with the lingo here .. I did try to s/s the conversation but every time i tried to piece this together it would mess up so i posted this and used colors...


pm me for more details on this I AM SO GLAD i finally have something to talk about .. I WAS BORED :D

also corrected all characters .. to just your main three ... but still doing math and even then see no way of this happening.. i believe one of the morphs is a enemy in the downed submarine .. and takes 10+++++ (a shitload) of morphs to get a +1 wis/ or something can't recall which stat or name .. but hes the flying serpent you encounter in the battle arena near the end sommetimes. It's hard as fuck to find him and even longer to morph him for a +1 lol.

This post was edited by D2WIKIGURU on Apr 3 2011 12:06pm
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Quote (D2WIKIGURU @ Apr 3 2011 06:57pm)
I could not recall thanks for the correction :D I added up the ones i remembered really fast so yeah could have missed one :P

Cloud, barret, cid, vincent, tifa, yuffie, aeris, cait sith, red XIII


I know right ... thanks for your support on this


Well the post is tl;dr but I doubt it is possible to max out all characters and complete the game in 22 hours. To be honest I wouldn't know anyway, I'm not into speedrunning RPG's, I enjoy them a lot more if I take them slow... and I wouldn't have the time or urge to max out stats, I've only done that in FFX because it was the only way to complete it without using Yojimbo against bosses, and I'm not doing that again.

edit: tl;dr is too long; didn't read

This post was edited by zarkadon on Apr 3 2011 12:05pm
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Apr 3 2011 12:23pm
tl;dr version or gtfo

this actually interest me but im not reading a whole fucking book
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