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Aug 17 2013 12:00pm
Hello everyone,

To the d2jsp administration:

Let's do consider implementing bitcoin and litecoin public addresses to allow donations to d2jsp via these digital currencies. Even amazon and many large vendors are starting to accept bitcoin! D2jsp administration could even craft QR-codes for the front page -to reach out in PR- and expand d2jsp's presence in the android/mobile market for the ease of donations via 1-click apps (the lazy and the practical will open their wallets). These are implementations without much work or development and could clearly increase some revenue for the d2jsp team efforts; not to mention a stronger cryptographic profile to present d2jsp with greater elegance. What started this idea? I wanted to donate some bitcoin and didn't see a method, only the paypal avenue. I would love to see a d2jsp bitcoin donation address and a PGP address for communications.


TL;DR

Bitcoin & litecoin for donations
QR-codes for mobile PR and android presence
PGP public d2jsp address in http://pgp.mit.edu/

References:

https://bitpay.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
http://bitcoin.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litecoin

p.s.

The most ambitious implementation would be an integration of bitcoin "fg" served and brokred via d2jsp's administration. The mediation may be delicate but is attainable. This could create donations and increase the d2jsp's fg economy -by allowing users who don't hold jobs, or are full-time students or are too young to hold credit cards- to farm bitcoin from their home hardware and have a secondary revenue source to inject economy to d2jsp and give greater access to all for purchases and general trades.
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Aug 17 2013 12:06pm
No.

Also, please read this: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=57896631&f=258
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Aug 17 2013 12:06pm
Yeah, this won't happen, especially the second part about possible fg->bitcoin withdrawal. The point of fg is monopoly of the supply to drive more $$ for the site and site only.

Btw, you forgot to mention there is also another plus of accepting bitcoins: no chargebacks

But of course, if you're on topic with bitcoin, you must know the paypal's stance on bitcoin. They are terrified of the idea, and even slight mention or ANY KIND of connection to bitcoin, while doing business on paypal, will end up BADLY. In the end paypal would froze all d2jsp accounts immediately, the second d2jsp started accepting bitcoins. They go as far as freezing your paypal/*** account if you're selling mining rigs (!) that is real hardware you actually ship.

^ heh why is "paypal" a good word and the auction site owned by the same company not? :D

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No.

Also, please read this: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=57896631&f=258
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what a fine discussion entry, explained everything why this idea is bad, showed an open mind and general friendliness.

This post was edited by nuvo on Aug 17 2013 12:11pm
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Aug 17 2013 12:07pm
definitely not ha. nice try though
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Aug 17 2013 12:45pm
Another thought: probably a majority of D2jsp's demographic and age group isn't familiar or interested with BC so this may not be the ideal community employ it most. I just wanted to bring a new avenue to d2jsp for people to spend their money in exchange of FG. Just an experiment.

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Aug 17 2013 12:46pm
Quote (A2K @ Aug 17 2013 01:06pm)
No.



What's your argument?

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Aug 17 2013 12:50pm
Quote (IVIike @ Aug 17 2013 01:07pm)
definitely not.


Why not?
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Quote (nuvo @ Aug 17 2013 01:06pm)
The point of fg is monopoly of the supply to drive more $$ for the site and site only.

Btw, you forgot to mention there is also another plus of accepting bitcoins: no chargebacks

But of course, if you're on topic with bitcoin, you must know the paypal's stance on bitcoin. They are terrified of the idea, and even slight mention or ANY KIND of connection to bitcoin, while doing business on paypal, will end up BADLY. In the end paypal would froze all d2jsp accounts immediately, the second d2jsp started accepting bitcoins. They go as far as freezing your paypal/*** account if you're selling mining rigs (!) that is real hardware you actually ship.

^ heh why is "paypal" a good word and the auction site owned by the same company not? :D


Yeah the creation of FG here was a bright idea by d2jsp and served its purpose during the heights of the diablo franchise. A few ASCII characters that can be worth dollars is a very respectable feat and remains viable even today, years after D2 launch. Is a little difficult to speculate on paypal's lastest policy and how they would react in the unique case of d2jsp when so many businesses are already implanting BC methods. If paypal shutsdown all it's clients, it would go broke. There are more financial risks in ending business relationships than in creating them. I agree bitcoin presents a type of competition to paypal and competition is a threat to "monopolies", but there are competitions of all kinds everywhere. Capitalism welcomes competition and open enterprise right? I feel BC it taking such a size that instead of trying to shut it down and censoring it -which would invite a Streisand effect- is best to become educated and find a way to coexist and use BC -side by side- with other currencies to try and grow together in symbiosis. BC is already here, the point is: what can we do to accommodate it and how can we use it to our advantage? Let's think more about solutions and less about problems.

To rephrase the post's topic: how can can BC help d2jsp?


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what a fine discussion entry, explained everything why this idea is bad, showed an open mind and general friendliness.


Agreed, let's invite more discussion of ideas and the Socratic method. A plain "no" is an incomplete idea! Let's aim for more.

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how can you propose BC can help d2jsp grow?


that's the point. this site's business model is selling fg to idiots. If they opened to btc trades, fg would no longer be controlled, people could buy from others easily etc. I think you're wasting your energy here really :P there are other awesome places to convince, way more important than some forum! :lol:
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Aug 17 2013 02:00pm
I should be given some FG for my -though futile- efforts here! Haha
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