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Jun 10 2011 01:44am
Quote (konduct @ Jun 10 2011 03:01am)
Same art that Bruce Lee started with. its pretty sweet,; not really geared for brute fighting, which is good because im not too muscular

Thoughts?


Wing chang is awesome, there isn't a punching bag in the world that will mess with you once you mastery it.
Just becareful of certain people who might hit back, even more dangerous are ones who hit first.

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Jun 10 2011 10:06am
i love how ppl talk shit about it even tough they never trained in wing chun..

edit: oh wait nvm its because no one in the ufc use that..

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Jun 10 2011 10:10am
This conversation has been had a million times in the past. Kung Fu is far more common in MMA than most of you recognize.

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i love how ppl talk shit about it even tough they never trained in wing chun..


I love how people talk shit about someone trying out kung fu, when none of them have spent more than a minute in front of a punching bag or on the mats.

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This conversation has been had a million times in the past. Kung Fu is far more common in MMA than most of you recognize.



I love how people talk shit about someone trying out kung fu, when none of them have spent more than a minute in front of a punching bag or on the mats.


I agree from what litle I have learned so far, it is all about balance, which seems it would be an invaluable application in MMA. That's not what I am trying to get out of it, I just want a good workout, good discipline, and just enough practical application to get me out of trouble and be able to run away. I work a job where I could enter an unknown hazard easily, whether it be a mentally unstable patient, or a trap for my drug box in the back of the ambulance.

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Jun 13 2011 11:10pm
I am enrolled in a jeet kune do school, my sifu is a direct student of dan inosanto, who was a direct student of bruce lee; If you know bruce lee you definately should know JKD is wing chun based.


I actually kind of like the attitude of wing chun more than most other martial arts because it seems like it is more onslaught until the threat is gone versus being part of and intermixed with the chaos(in a situation with multiple attackers)

All of these people telling you BJJ for real life combat are either complete idiots or just to much of a fanboy of UFC to know what they are talking about.


In a real life situation the last place you want to be is fighting from the ground, you'd be better off doing like you said and just slipping away and running.


in terms of lethality, one defining line for the police to use deadly force is if they are up against a hard object, such as a brick wall or the ground, if they are being attacked while pressed against such an object they have the choice to respond with deadly force (I.E. beat you to death, or shoot you)


If you kick someone in the head, their legs/back/head/neck can all pivot backwards and absorb some of the force. also your skull has a certain bit of flexibility or give, even if it is unnoticable in terms of human senses.


But if you have your head against the wall or the ground your head has no where to go and the only absorbing force is that formentioned flexibility of the skull, which in itself can cause brain damage, so your brain is aborbing 99%, if not all of the force.



Especially in the situation where you mentioned "a trap" for your drugs or what have you, that would more than likely be set up by multiple offenders, so while you're on the ground dilly dallying around playing fag cuddle with one of the offenders appendages, another one has already run off with your supplies, and one or two more of them are busy stomping on your head while you hold the other one for comfort.



In a real life situation, standing and punching, kicking, trying to yank and pull away would be in my opinion more effective, and MUCH SAFER.


Wing Chun is a good choice my man, a lot of its moves teach you to knock down your opponent while keeping your balance and staying on your feet, which will open that window for you to escape.


The only really criticizing comments I have is that as I assume a paramedic or ambulance driver you are most likely in a confined space, and even sometimes encumbered with bags/carts/boxes/carrying a patient, and wing chun is not really as suited for confined spaces or having your hands full/encumbered.


For someone that is in a confined space or carrying stuff/wearing a uniform/accessories, etc; I would really suggest Krav Maga, it was developed in Isreal and is mostly used by the military/police personel including the isreali special forces, and is even part of the cirriculum I believe for many of the unarmed combat courses taught in USA's various branches of the military.


I hope this helps, or at least not TL;DR



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Jun 14 2011 12:21am
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For someone that is in a confined space or carrying stuff/wearing a uniform/accessories, etc; I would really suggest Krav Maga, it was developed in Isreal and is mostly used by the military/police personel including the isreali special forces, and is even part of the cirriculum I believe for many of the unarmed combat courses taught in USA's various branches of the military.


Krav Maga and nothing of the sort is taught to US soldiers in any branch.

Don't believe all of the hype.

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Jun 14 2011 12:23am
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Krav Maga and nothing of the sort is taught to US soldiers in any branch.

Don't believe all of the hype.


I said that principals and moves that are found in krav maga, are found in the same hand to hand combat training that are taught to branches of our military.


At least properly understand the statement before you make negative comments, spammer.
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I said that principals and moves that are found in krav maga, are found in the same hand to hand combat training that are taught to branches of our military.


At least properly understand the statement before you make negative comments, spammer.


Your statement is still false.
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Jun 14 2011 12:29am
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Your statement is still false.


Your statement is closed ended and ignorant.


If Krav Maga contains a jab, and the military teaches you to jab then it contains the same technique(move), known as the jab.


If it teaches you a trip, a punch, a principal like shifting your weight into a punch; then they share the sane principals and techniques.


I might even say something like "most martial arts share many of the same principals and techniques" , and it would be true since I specifically stated "most" and not "all"

and I think it is fair to say "most" martial arts have basic punches, kicks, or blocks; not necssarily all.




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do you see where semantically you come off as an idiot?

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Jun 14 2011 12:31am
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Your statement is closed ended and ignorant.


If Krav Maga contains a jab, and the military teaches you to jab then it contains the same technique, known as the jab.


If it teaches you a trip, a punch, a principal like shifting your weight into a punch; then they share the sane principals and techniques.


I might even say something like "most martial arts share many of the same principals and techniques" , and it would be true since I specifically stated "most" and not "all"

and I think it is fair to say "most" martial arts have basic punches, kicks, or blocks; not necssarily all.




///e


do you see where semantically you come off as an idiot?


This isn't even worthy of an intelligence response.

By this thought process Sumo is practiced by the US military.

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