correction, the karate stance is good for karate

it's bad for mma

mcgregor has 4 inches of reach on aldo, it's not enough to make a huge difference, everyone seems to think mcgregor has jon jones type reach which simply isn't true\



mendes lands more significant strikes per minute, has higher quality wins, and is an all around better athlete, and aldo tooled him


remember, even slow dennis siver landed plenty of leg kicks on mcgregor

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XefTO0Z.png[/IMG]

denis siver landing that many strikes on mcgregor in 1 and a half rounds, means a real striker like aldo, will do much more then that.

to be fair though, aldo can beat mcgregor without throwing any leg kicks, he's just that much better than him

Ok either ur an Aldo homer or you're trolling me.

Either way, I'm done trying to explain fighting to people that don't know striking.

I just want it to be July 11th already lol. Then everyone will learn.

thats your "intelligent" rebuttal to my evidence?



you're the biggest connor nuthugger ive ever seen, so much that when i explain how he took leg kicks from a slower, washed up, old kickboxer, you immediately go "LOL YOU'RE TROLLING"


i am probably the most educated striker in this subforum, in more disciplines as well. there's a reason the base karate stance isn't used in mma, and it's not because everyone is behind the curve.

I explained why Aldo won't/won't be able to leg kick him. I'm not going to repeat myself, you've never tried to leg kick a south paw obviously...

you didn't explain it, because you seem to think a southpaw has no lead leg,



fun fact, it doesn't matter if the leg kick is to the outside or the inside.


Your argument is literally "NO! CONNOR'S LEFT LEG IS IN BACK SO ALDO CAN'T LEG KICK HIM!"



Think about this for a second, dennis siver, leg kick mcgregor 15 times in one round


dennis fucking sivir dude.... that's like getting leg kicked by stephen hawking man. connor is vulnerable to the leg kick.


and like i said before hand, aldo can beat him without throwing leg kicks.





This post was edited by JewGifShoes on Apr 19 2015 01:26pm

Sighhhh..

Ok you just don't understand the orthodox vs south paw match up... The angles, the counters, the movement.

you don't understand it apparantly. you seem to think southpaw strikers are better, which isn't true, they're just different

and connor doesn't have very good movement, as siver landed 15 leg kicks on him in one round. you know siver the slow 40 year old that can barely lift his leg up? yeah that siver


oh hey siver is also orthodox and he landed 15 leg kicks on connor, guess that argument flew out the window as well didnt it

Southpaws almost always have a distinct advantage.

They've been fighting vs orthodox fighters their whole life while most orthodox fighters very rarely see a southpaw...

They become much better at slipping straight lefts in, they get more used to the head movement and they generally do a much better job of controlling the lead hand.

Lol @ siver landed leg kicks. There's a difference between landing a leg kick and touching someone with your foot.

I just rewatched that fight a few days ago, siver had 1 nice kick.

bold is false, there are no advantages to south paw stance; fighters don't "very rarely" see a southpaw, because they train in camps, with plenty of southpaws, every day of their life. it's not as rare as you think to find a southpaw striker.


"they get used to the head movement so they do a much better job" <- broscience if i've ever seen it


and sivir did land leg kicks, he landed good leg kicks as well, and he's OLD


and he's also orthodox like aldo,


so imagine a faster, better striker, whose name is jose aldo, who can land those 15 leg kicks in a minute.


stop brosciencing me, i'm not one to put up with petty bullshit

Ok this is an old post I made, you need to educate yourself, because u seem to think being a south paw has no advantage. Since you seem to have an elementary level of striking knowledge. Either way I'm excited for the fight, gonna bet on conor obviously.










Basically the problem is like 90% of fighters are orthodox. So if youre orthodox (like Aldo) then your whole career youre fighting someone thats standing the same way as you... Now when you fight a south paw as an orthodox you get this:



INSTEAD OF THIS:









Notice in the first pic how their hands are together? If you can control the persons lead hand, it makes it much easier to slip straight rear handed punches in, set up counters, etc. Pacquiao is amazing at this, he "hand fights" or controls peoples front hand so good. You are usually trying to keep your lead hand on the outside of your opponents because it gives you more options and its easier to control their hand. OH THIS JUST HIT ME, if you watched the rashad evans vs lil nog fight, thats a perfect example of the hand control thing... they basically didnt even punch the whole fight.



Heres a pic. They just kept playing those hand games the whole fight, notice how where Rashads hand is.

Now when your southpaw your whole life you get very very good at this. Not to mention all the other combinations, counters that are open.

Lets say you fight orthodox and 9 out of 10 people you spar with are orthodox (pretty standard). This means 90% of the time youre fighting someone in the same stance as you and only 10% of the time you have to deal with someone in a different stance like the picture above.

Lets say you fight southpaw and you fight against the same group of people where 9 out of 10 are orthodox stance. This now means that 90% of the time youre fighting in the opposite stance (you are southpaw they are orthodox like the picture above) so you get very sharp at the weird / different combinations because no one else is used to fighting like this. You are part of that 10% of southpaws they fight and they arent used to it.

So it's not simple enough to say "oh he'll find a southpaw partner to train with." It's something thats developed over a lifetime of a career. McGregor has weird enough striking as is, toss in that hes a southpaw and it just gets more difficult.

Southpaws also have a distinct advantage and ability to land strike like body kicks, I'm pretty sure Pettis went southpaw when he dropped Cerrone with the body kicks.

Hopefully that made sense lol. Basically southpaw has an advantage striking because everything and standing for them, but everything is backwards for the orthodox. You learn ways to move, angles, etc. and everything is reversed when they guys if the opposite stance.

LORD, this is a long post lol. But I think its a pretty good concept that like 98% of jsp kids dont know, and is interesting to learn if you care about fighting.. Hopefully 1 person enjoys it lol.